[MD] Theism/epistemology

[MarshaV]

At 01:08 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
>At 12:59 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
>>At 12:39 PM 2/7/2009, you wrote:
>> > > > >[Marsha]
>> > > > >Within the MOQ, theism, god and religion are static patterns of
>>value.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >[Krimel]
>> > > > >What is a static pattern?
>> > > >
>> > > >Marsha:
>> > > >A conceptual construct, or a static pattern of value.  Do you like
>> >paradox?
>> > > >
>> > > >[Krimel]
>> > > >What is a conceptual construct?
>> > >
>> > >[Marsha]
>> > >Why don't you tell me.  You know you want to...
>> > >
>> > >[Krimel]
>> > >Sounds like just a thought.
>> >
>> >Marsha
>> >A mental construct, a static pattern of value.
>> >
>> >[Krimel]
>> >Constructed of what?
>>
>>Marsha
>>Constructed of emptiness which dependent arising.
>>
>>[Krimel]
>>"Constructed" of emptiness? Emptiness arising? Dependant on what?
>
>
>Krimel,
>
>Dependent arising:
>
>This is the understanding that any phenomenon exists only because of 
>the existence of other phenomena in an incredibly complex web of 
>cause and effect covering time past, time present and time future. 
>This concept of a web is symbolized by Indra's net, a 
>multidimensional spider's web on which lies an infinite amount of 
>dew drops or jewels, and in these are reflected the reflections of 
>all the other drops of dew ad infinitum.
>
>Stated in another way, everything depends on everything else. A 
>human being's existence in any given moment is dependent on the 
>condition of everything else in the world at that moment, but in an 
>equally significant way, the condition of everything in the world in 
>that moment depends conversely on the character and condition of 
>that human being. Everything in the Universe is interconnected 
>through the web of cause and effect such that the whole and the 
>parts are mutually interdependent. The character and condition of 
>entities at any given time are intimately connected with the 
>character and condition of all other entities that superficially may 
>appear to be unconnected or unrelated.
>
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_arising>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_arising 
>


Or, Krimel, to put it into MoQ terms, indivisible, undefinable and 
unknowable Quality.


Marsha






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