[MD] Theism/epistemology

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Wed Feb 25 08:44:58 PST 2009


At 08:47 PM 2/24/2009, you wrote:


> > > > Marsha said:
> > > > Try this.  Remove all pronouns from the following statement.
> > > >
> > > > "I love myself...I love you.
> > > > I love you...I love myself."
> > > >
> > > Michael said:
> > >I've lived that all my life, Marsha.
> > >
> > >"God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God 
> abides in him"
> > >(1 Jn 4:16).
> > >
> > >
> > >But your exercise doesn't answer my question to you as to why 
> you denigrate
> > >one or another approach to "love" over your particular one for 
> any reason, let
> > >alone based on a conviction it has something to do with an MoQ 
> understanding
> > >of reality.
> > >
> > >IMO you are making MoQ out to be a religion, and your own personal one at
> > >that. I'm not going to tell you you can't or shouldn't chose one 
> course of action
> > >over another in this regard but IMO the path you're taking is 
> one not well suited
> > >to throwing stones.
> >
> >
> > Marsha said:
> > Michael,
> >    Okay.
> >       Marsha
> >
> > "When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to
> > possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must
> > destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no
> > mercy." (Deuteronomy 7:1-2)
>
>Marsha,
>
>I'm not sure what to make of your response.
>
>Does "Okay" imply agreement with what I said above it? Why the Deuteronomy
>quote? I don't see the relevance and it seems to imply a 
>contradictory position
>to "Okay."
>
>I hesitate to respond until I understand your meaning ...
>
>MP


Michael,

Obviously I failed to dispel your skepticism towards my wish for you 
to receive an abundance of joy, which I believe was being 
questioned.  I want EVERYONE to have an abundance of joy. As for 
'theism' and 'God', those concepts have no meaning for me 
personally.  I did provide a number of quotes by RMP indicating that 
the MOQ was atheistic and anti-theistic which you choose to 
ignore.  The Deuteronomy quote was introduced to show a biblical 
contradiction in your loving god in 1 Jn 4:16 and the merciless god 
of Deuteronomy 7:1-2.

I do not denigrate one approach to love over another, but that does 
not mean I need to embrace or accept every approach.  Parents may 
decide to love their children by beating goodness into them.  I 
wouldn't accept that approach and I would try to stop such a loving 
expression.  A person of power may ask me to prove my love by 
forfeiting reason and experience.  I wouldn't accept that approach to 
love.  I wouldn't accept the definition of love given by the bible 
when there are such blatant contradictions concerning god's 
love.  Maybe now you get the idea.

Okay?


Marsha





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