[MD] Theism/epistemology

[MarshaV]

At 07:58 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote:

> > Marsha said:
> > Your comments are not making any sense to me.
>MP: That is clear. And yet you profess to be able to respond to them 
>with such
>self righteous conviction. Interesting approach for someone so 
>critical of static
>religious institutions.

Is it interesting?



> > Marsha said:
> > Believe whatever you like, that does not convince me of anything.
>MP: What makes you think I am trying to convince you of anything other than
>your failure to listen?

I do not find any meaning in the concept of god or theism.  You seem 
not to understand that.




> > Marsha said:
> > The MOQ is atheistic and anti-theistic.  Why
> > cannot you accept this?
>MP: I do. But a metaphysics being atheistic does not mean theism is either
>irrelevant or even bad, even in that metaphysics. Oranges are atheistic, but
>eating them doesn't preclude you from being theistic or require you to be
>atheistic. Science is atheistic, but being a scientist doesn't 
>preclude you from
>being theistic or require you to be atheistic. MoQ is atheistic, but 
>...  Get my
>drift?

God and theism, as concepts, have no  meaning for me.  Get my drift?



> > > > Marsha said:
> > > > I did provide a number of quotes by RMP indicating that
> > > > the MOQ was atheistic and anti-theistic which you choose to
> > > > ignore.
> > >MP: To the contrary. I have responded at length to a number of
> > those quotes
> > >several times. Your reactions to my responses were revealing,
> > mostly in their
> > >absence, but also in their negativity.
> >
> > Responding at length doesn't mean you've successfully refuted the
> > fact that the MOQ is atheistic and anti-theistic.
>MP: I have never attempted to refute that fact, why do you 
>continuously insist I
>have?

I am simply restating a fact, and the evidence for that fact.



> > Marsha said:
> > Denying something is not a basis for knowing the thing.
>MP: And denying something without knowing it is the basis of ignorance.

If I deny the existence of an one-eyed, flying purple people eater, 
is that a basis for ignorance?



> > Was there a different God in the old and new testaments?
>MP: No, there was a different man.

Oh, the statement "God is love" in 1 Jn 4:16 was about a man.





>Marsha, I just find it odd the degree to which you wish an abundance of joy
>using such negative methods. You and I obviously have drastically different
>understandings of joy.

Is disagreeing with you a negative method?  That's sad.



Marsha





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