[MD] Multiculturalism scam

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Ron, Micah, Platt, All

31 Dec. Ron had said (to Platt who had prodded the intellectual hornet 
nest)

> > An interesting arguement indeed. "multiculturalism" began with the
> > pragmatist movement tending to use the term "pluralism"  which Pirsig
> > clearly advocates ... 

I agree with multiculturalism/pluralism being intellectual - a side effect 
IMO - objectively seen all humankind is born free with equal worth and 
rights, and as the social level is the very heart of discriminating  - and 
intellect's business is to go against society - it follows  The various 
national constitutions in the seventeenth century were "intellectual" 
they thought all humankind wanted to be free (to worship their faith 
among other things) 

> >  ...but, as you have mentioned he also advocates a
> > universal judgement method which, in effect, advocates SOM by valueing
> > what we culturaly define as "intellectual" and measuring by it. A Fly in
> > the MoQ soup.

but here Ron goes off track. He (Pirsig) advocates the MOQ which has 
intellect as its highest level meaning that people who only have 
reached intellect (but not MOQ's meta-level) are in SOM-land, i.e. not 
knowing their values to be static, meaning that - among other things - 
multiculturalism carried to its extreme is disastrous. No fies in the 
MOQ soup this far.   

Micah:
> If intellectual value is defined by social value; is it not then, by
> definition, social quality and not intellectual quality? Pirsig's quote
> is correct. 

I agree with Micah, Ron has got the social-intellectual relationship 
mixed up. On the other hand Platt has some starnge notion of social 
values, I'll dedicate another post to that issue.

Bo