[MD] Christendom's place in the MOQ

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Platt]
Some radical leftists have even gone so far as to claim a Marxist 
government would be a  an expression of Christian ideals.

[Arlo]
Not exactly. Marxist ideology per se is radically opposed to the idea 
of paying homage to an invisible man in the sky. It sees religion as 
a opiate of control to keep the masses being good sheep while the 
power structure manipulates them accordingly. But no greater 
disservice has been made the Message of Christ as the one that 
radical rightwingers promote when the see Christianity and the 
Capistocracy as being sympatico. This is an outgrowth of their 
cancerous "social Darwinism" that says that "God wants you to be 
wealthy and have money, and if you do its because you have God's 
favor". Jesus and Marx may not be entirely in line, but the 
advocation of community work, feeding the poor, sheltering the 
homeless, healing the sick, you know the Prime Tenets of the Faith 
are far more in line with a communal-ideological orientation (not to 
mention that Jesus was strongly opposed to wealth and material 
possession) than with the Modern Capistocracy. Jesus might not be a 
Marxist, but he sure as hell ain't no Capitalist either. Nor would he 
be Happy to see those who pretend to be "Christians" so obviously 
deviating from his teachings and thinking that "getting on their 
knees on Sunday" or singing a few songs is good enough to get one 
into Heaven. The single biggest irony is the "WWJD" slogans that 
demonstrate clearly that those who most vocally pretend they are 
Christians know absolutely nothing about its central message (as is 
the case with you as well).

And, I will add, any "intellectual" or "enlightenment" in modern 
Christianity derives not from the Faith, but from the advent of 
secular humanism which, in fact, neutered Christianity to its 
powerlessness we enjoy today. It was not until people were wise 
enough to realize that secular, philosophically-derived law is a 
better basis for social law than the Mandates of the Man in the Sky 
that we freed ourselves from the shackles. Modern Christianity is 
humble only because it HAS to be so, because it has no real power to 
wage wars or crusades, to call for executions (even though several 
prominent Christians have called for the eradication of sinners 
(blacks, gays, immigrants, deviants, miscreants, etc) by God's hand), 
or to control the weather (as many found out when they demanded their 
god unleash a deluge of rain upon Obama's victory speech, an act he 
did not do, as he was too busy making sure certain wide receivers 
caught touchdown passes in that week's games).

[Platt]
That a Christian-suffused group of Founding Fathers in the U.S. 
established the MOQ-cited intellectual level guarantees of freedom of 
speech, freedom of religion, trail by jury, etc. would suggest a "yes" answer.

[Arlo]
It indicates they (Deists, not Christians) saw the benefits of 
Secular Humanism over theocracy and established social law so based. 
Unless you care to point out any references in the Christian Bible to 
"freedom of speech" or (laughably) "freedom of religion" or "trial by 
jury". That these so-called "Founding Fathers" (a moronic term) 
pandered to the religious inclinations of the citizenry only reveals 
how little they thought of the hoi polloi, and to be honest who can 
blame them. Its a lot easier to control people by saying "My 
Invisible Man in the Sky Says So" than have to explain a reasoned 
argument. "Founding Fathers"? Please. How about "Fallible Men Who Got 
Some Things Right and Some Things Wrong". So much more accurate.