[MD] Empiricism for dummies

[MarshaV]

Greetings Mel,

And maybe this might help catch me up.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0826498582


Marsha



At 08:20 AM 1/21/2009, you wrote:
>Without sufficiently similar university
>classes to what Adam's fans have,
>many of the references will just slide
>by and all that is left is stooge-like
>silliness.  You are right.
>(but it won't take long reading these
>posts to get most of the philosophical
>101 background)
>
>thanks--mel
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MarshaV" <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Empiricism for dummies
>
>
> >
> > Ian,
> >
> > Okay, I did once listen to Hitch-Hiker's Guide...  But for me it was
> > kind of like the Three Stooges, I wasn't thrilled.   Maybe it's a guy
> > thing, maybe not.
> >
> > Your example does give me some idea.  -  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:07 AM 1/21/2009, you wrote:
> > >Marsha,
> > >
> > >The Whale pops into existence above a planet, ....
> > >.... and experiences free fall in space .....
> > >.... and then falling through the atmosphere ...
> > >.... and in that brief moment the whale's brain tries to make sense ....
> > >.... of falling and whooshing air ....
> > >.... not to mention the "object" below gradually filling up its field
> > >of vision ...
> > >.... starting with absolutley no prior experience or conception of
> > >these experiences.
> > >.... before .... Splattt !!!
> > >
> > >DNA - Douglas N Adams
> > >H2G2 - Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
> > >
> > >The begonia has a similar (but different) experiences ;-)
> > >
> > >You get the idea.
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ian,
> > > >
> > > > ????  Sorry, there's no familiar pattern there.   Douglas Adams?
>Splatt?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:10 AM 1/21/2009, you wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> BTW,
> > > >> When thinking of pre-conceptual experience, I don't think it's
> > > >> possible to beat the example of what enters the mind of Douglas
>Adams'
> > > >> Whale when it "pops into existence" for a few brief experience-filled
> > > >> moments.
> > > >>
> > > >> Splattt !!!
> > > >>
> > > >> FWIW
> > > >> Ian
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Greetings All,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sometimes I ask a question and it's like hitting the jackpot.  This
>is
> > > >> > very
> > > >> > helpful.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Love you all,
> > > >> >   Marsha
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > .
> > > >> > .
> > > >> > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a
> > > >> > reflection
> > > >> > of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
> > > >> > .
> > > >> > .
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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