[MD] Empiricism for dummies

[MarshaV]

Greetings Ian,

Busy day and impossible subject.  I do not own the book (The God 
Delusion), only the cds, so it would be impossible for me to debate 
examples.  As an instrument to uproot the concept of God, I think it 
excellent.  I cannot say every example and argument is perfect, but 
overall the book is very successful.  Further, if before me the path 
split, with the continuation to my left leading to God and religion, 
and the continuation to my right leading towards Science, and I were 
forced to choose one, I would choose the right-leading path towards 
Science. As of Wednesday, though, I've decided to use the 
non-affirming negative.  For me, God does not exist, and God does not 
not exist.  Poof.   Sigh.    What next?

Marsha







At 03:36 AM 1/23/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>I have said so much about why Dawkins is an asshole, that I'm not sure
>I should lead any response to your question.
>
>The nicest thing I said about him in my longest piece on the subject was.
>"Anyone who is a fan of DNA (Douglas N Adams) can't be all bad."
>
>He's an atheist, thorough scientific academic and public communicator,
>but he is an unreconstructed materialist, logical-positive,
>greedy-reductionist, objectivist, atomist, SOMist, scientist, and so
>dogmatic with it, that the immense irony of his dogma is entirely lost
>on him, not even an inkling ... the very antithesis of a MOQist.
>(Either that or he is so single-minded in his agenda, that he refuses
>to let any such chink in his armour see the light of day ... in which
>case he is very good at that too.)
>
>After God Delusion, please don't omit to read
>Harris (End of Faith) and
>Dennett (Breaking the Spell) & (Darwin's Dangerous Idea)
>if you haven't already.
>These people understand that the answer is just "Not science as we
>know it, Dawkins."
>
>On the positive note Marsha, you quoted Pirsig as saying ...
>"Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a thirty thousand
>page menu, and no food."
>You should also read Douglas N Adams "Restaurant and the End of the
>Universe" (2nd or 3rd ? in the "trilogy" of 5 or 8, none of which
>appears in the film.) If he were alive today, I would ask DNA if his
>title had anything to do with reading Pirsig, maybe even subliminally
>?
>
>Sorry, gotta go, busy day.
>Regards
>Ian
>
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>On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:52 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
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> > Greetings,
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> > Why the negative opinion of Richard Dawkins?  I'm just about finished with
> > 'The God Delusion'.  While it is sad that such a book needs be published, I
> > am grateful to live in a time when it has been published, and has had a
> > successful distribution.
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> >
> > Marsha
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> > Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a thirty thousand 
> page menu,
> > and no food.
> > (Robert M. Pirsig)
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Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a thirty thousand 
page menu, and no food.
(Robert M. Pirsig)
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