[MD] Empiricism for dummies

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Fri Jan 23 03:48:42 PST 2009


Ian,

I was ready for it, but it was Nietzsche who 
drove the spike through my belief in a God.

Maybe I'm a Romantic, but when I think of 
Science, I think of the photos taken from the 
Hubble telescope.  I worked for the company that 
polished the lens, the Perkin-Elmer 
Corporation.  Or I think about Einstein's thought 
experiments.  Great daydreams!  Or Darwin's 
voyage on the Beagle.  Or I think about 
discovering that the observer influences the 
observation.  Curious and wonderful.  I'm not an 
enemy of science, I just don't want it in the center of the Universe.


Marsha





At 06:14 AM 1/23/2009, you wrote:
>Which is interesting Marsha, pretty much my position,
>
>I prefer "non-theist" when it comes to my theology (I think I picked
>that up from Harris ?) so I've moved on to "what next", which turns
>out in fact to be where I started - like Pirsig - that whilst science
>is preferable to religion, there is "something wrong in the state of
>science" too.
>
>"If Phædrus had entered science for ambitious or utilitarian purposes
>it might never have occurred to him to ask questions about the nature
>of scientific hypothesis as an entity in itself. But he did ask them,
>and was unsatisfied with the answers."
>(Pirsig, ZMM-25th Ed p113)
>
>The scary thing is I made that decision years before I'd heard of Pirsig.
>Regards
>Ian
>
>On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > Greetings Ian,
> >
> > Busy day and impossible subject.  I do not own the book (The God Delusion),
> > only the cds, so it would be impossible for me to debate examples.  As an
> > instrument to uproot the concept of God, I 
> think it excellent.  I cannot say
> > every example and argument is perfect, but overall the book is very
> > successful.  Further, if before me the path split, with the continuation to
> > my left leading to God and religion, and the continuation to my right
> > leading towards Science, and I were forced to 
> choose one, I would choose the
> > right-leading path towards Science. As of 
> Wednesday, though, I've decided to
> > use the non-affirming negative.  For me, God does not exist, and God does
> > not not exist.  Poof.   Sigh.    What next?
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
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Metaphysics is a restaurant where they give you a 
thirty thousand page menu, and no food.
(Robert M. Pirsig)
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