[MD] MacIntyre, Pirsig, Crawford & Damasio

[Ian Glendinning]

Thanks Matt,

That's well put ... "inability to conceive of democracy as a tradition"
Having made a great case for the "narrative" tradition - I already had
the feeling that MacIntyre was myopic on seeing the one true tradition
(in Cristianity) as somehow distinct from all the other "traditions" -
like democracy itself, or any system of moral governance. In fact I
think I tried to make that point. Thanks for reinforcing the fact that
MacIntyre doesn't improve on that - it will save me additional effort.

Though I can see (and I think it is Sam's Christian point); it has
always been an atheistic point of mine, that "free" democracies do
need some "relatively fixed" traditions within them to anchor a
working set of moral rules, and some "elders" with "traditional
authority" to maintain these.

Dangerous ground I know, but democratic governance comes in many
flavours, and anarchy is not necessarily the safest. As someone said
"Democracy is the worst form of governance, apart from all the
others.)

Regards
Ian

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Matt
Kundert<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> So as not to leave you hanging, but I don't have any new thoughts about MacIntyre.  He's useful for his thick articulation of an opposing moral tradition to democracy, but limited in his explicit critique by his inability to conceive of democracy as a tradition.
>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:53:01 +0200
>> From: ian.glendinning at gmail.com
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: [MD] MacIntyre, Pirsig, Crawford & Damasio
>>
>> Matt & Sam specifically, but anyone interested ...
>>
>> In reading Matthew Crawford's "Shop Class as Soul Craft" I have come
>> back around to Al MacIntyre in the Pirsigian context.
>>
>> This is a thread on MacIntyre's "After Virtue" from a year ago - but I
>> just inserted comment #6
>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=1580
>>
>> (Should of interest to the recent reductionism / DQ thread.)
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>> Regards
>> Ian
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