[MD] Another parallel

[X Acto]

John,
You have your finger on it, what makes it so difficult is that it is like
charting unknown territory, one attempts to define it in terms that are already
accustomed to. which creates problems in understanding.
I think clarification of context before explaination would be a good start
in terms of discussions.
But I'm open to ideas.

-Ron


 



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From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:57:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:

Also intellectual values in this case refers to the scientific view of life
> which has a defect in it: no provision for morals. Result: "Sometime after
> the twenties a secret loneliness, so penetrating and so encompassing that
> we
> are only beginning to realize the extent of it, descended upon the land.
> This scientific, psychiatric isolation and futility had become a far
> *worse*prison of the spirit than the old Victorian "virtue" ever was."
> (Lila, 22)
>
> Platt
>
>

I was thinking that a lot of the intensity for the social forces was caused
by that jesuitical fervor that society gets when worldview is being
overturned.  A feeling like, where do we go now?  There was a lot of
hedonism in Victorian society - the men with their cigars and clubs, the
ladies shunted to the side.  Strict separation between science and morality
because science brought all these wonders and morality restricted our
desires but leading in the end to isolation and futility.


But I notice that almost any discussion of values, when you get down to it,
needs clarification, definition and disambiguation just to know what it is
you're talking about.  I'm starting to see for myself  that defining quality
is like going the speed of light or dividing by zero, conceptually there but
not really.
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