[MD] Another parallel

david buchanan dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 14 15:12:11 PDT 2009


"The central reality of the MOQ not an object or a subject of anything else. It is understood by direct experience only and not by reasoning of any kind." (LC,132)

John the befuddled said:"ANY reasoning of ANY kind"???  How do you know unless you've tried them all? ... You'd have to have some sort of mind in order to comprehend the central reality of the MoQ, and a mind without reasoning is like a computer without  software.  A computer without software  is known as a doorstop.  A mind without reason is even less. Y'all have to explain that one to me.


dmb says:
It's probably not as strange as it sounds. Here "the central reality" he refers to is pure experience, otherwise known as pre-conceptual experience or pre-intellectual experience. Reasoning, by contrast, is necessarily conceptual and intellectual. The central reality is what you know prior to any reasoning. That's why it can't be understood "by reasoning of any kind". This is the basic idea behind Pirsig's claim that there is always a discrepancy between concepts and reality. This is the basic idea behind the claim that a metaphysics (reasoning minds want to know) of Quality (the central reality of the MOQ) is a contradiction in terms, a logical absurdity. This is also the basic idea behind Pirsig's claim that "Quality doesn't have to be defined. You understand it without definition, ahead of definition. Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior to intellectual abstractions." (Lila, chapter 5) This is what the radical empiricists are all saying. Instead of hopelessly trying to define this undefinable experience, radical empiricism is a careful, reasonable explanation as to WHY this direct experience cannot be defined.
To put it as simply as possible, reality is what you experience before you have a chance to think about it. 
 
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