[MD] Reductionism

[MarshaV]

Can't Joe create something like a Plank's 
Constant for himself, one guaranteed to get rid of those nasty zeros.





At 01:56 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote:
>Joe,
>Well, division by zero is not so much "physically impossible" as it is
>"in violation of mathematical axioms."
>Division by zero is an operation for which you cannot find an answer,
>so it is disallowed. You can understand why if you think about how
>division and multiplication are related.
>    12 divided by 6 is 2   because
>     6 times 2 is 12
>
>    12 divided by 0 is x   would mean that
>     0 times x = 12
>
>But no value would work for x because 0 times 
>any number is 0. So division by zero doesn't work.
>
>There's a special word for stuff like this, where you could conceivably give
>it any number of values. That word is "indeterminate." It's not the same as
>undefined. It essentially means that if it pops up somewhere, you don't know
>what its value will be in your case. For 
>instance, if you have the limit as x->0
>of x/x and of 7x/x, the expression will have a 
>value of 1 in the first case and 7
>in the second case. Indeterminate.
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Joseph Maurer <jhmau at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "moq_discuss at moqtalk.org" <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
>
>Hi Bo,
>
>I will work on the complications.  Thank you! for your encouragement, and
>the Time you have put into MOQ.
>
>Joe
>On 7/13/09 11:14 PM, "skutvik at online.no" <skutvik at online.no> wrote:
>
> > Hello  Joe
> >
> > I've noticed comments from you that includes me, but I have
> > developed some eye problem (when gazing at the screen for a long
> > time some strange patterns start to appear)  I must simply limit myself
> > ...give priority to "saving the MOQ" :-)
> >
> > However, this your input goes to the heart of the matter:
> >
> >> Imho (in my humble opinion), MOQ (Metaphysics Of Quality) reasonably
> >> changed the basis of the logic of SOM (Subject Object Metaphysics).
> >
> > Right you are.
> >
> >> SOM logic defines an undefined subject by the action of a defining
> >> verb.  In the case of dividing by 0 this is illogical. Descartes
> >> states: ³I think therefore I am!²
> >
> > As ZAMM describes it SOM emerged as a result of the Greek
> > philosophical frenzy that brought that culture away from its old quality-
> > based (Aretê) reality. Now, with LILA this must be put into a Q-level
> > context and it's plain that SOM is the intellectual level emerging from
> > Aretê as the social level. And only now can Descartes' statement be
> > evaluated and we see that SOM (with him) had reached its final stage,
> > a mental (mind) realm totally removed the material one. After
> > Descartes - with the empiricist - arose the problem which of the two
> > realms is the real (causes the other) and that see-saw that has gone
> > up and down ever since. This quandary was what brought young
> > Phaedrus to despair and triggered his Quality insight that (as you so
> > correctly say) "...changed the basis of the logic of SOM"
> >
> >> The  subject has only intentional existence.  Aristotle defines motion
> >> in a similar way: ³The act of a being in potency in as much as it is in
> >> potency.²  In SOM the subject is undefined (with only intentional
> >> existence from the object) and becomes defined by the action of the
> >> verb and object. E.g., the man is eating.  The ³man² is defined in the
> >> eating, and we can distinguish the ³man² from a statue.
> >
> > This may be correct, but terribly complicated. SOM's problem is that
> > the subject can't exist without the world, and the world not without the
> > subject, i.e. the mind/matter duality is an aggregate and yet SOM's
> > logical base does not allow this so it's plain that a fundamental base
> > shift is needed ... just what the MOQ is and in its light the S/O
> > distinction becomes its STATIC intellectual level. This way the VALUE
> > is retained while the problems dissolve.
> >
> >> In MOQ (Metaphysics of Quality) the subject is defined in an
> >> evolutionary hierarchy.  The object, the level of evolution, is
> >> defined in the action, SOL.
> >
> > At least the above about SOM = the intellectual level is the SOL
> > interpretation.
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> >
> > Bodvar
> >
> >
> >
> >
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