[MD] How to Be Rid of SOM, Forever

[MarshaV]

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Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [MD] How to Be Rid of SOM, Forever

Hi Marsha and thanks,
First, my Oregon Creek is in California.  It's a just about the perfect size
to be considered a "creek" and flows into the middle fork of the Yuba River
where Hwy 49 crosses.   It's also less than a 5 minute drive from my house,
which absolutely makes it the best swimming hole in the world.  All my kids
learned to swim there.

Marsha: 
Well, I've spent a lot of time in Southern California too, and it is also
beautiful, but I missed 'real' trees. My husband and I had a place there.
After he died I considered moving there but I was afraid I'd spend all the
day wave watching.  I sold it, but I have fond memories of my time there.
My daughter lives in Northern California.      



>
> One July I spent two sunny weeks (business trip) in Oregon, and it was
very
> beautiful.  I spent one of the weekend days driving down the coast and
> back.
> Gorgeous coastline!
>
> I have just one question. Do you need to turn over all those arising
> thoughts to awareness?  Of course thoughts like "Bear!!!" will be
> insistent,
> but most are not worthy of center stage.  Imho.


"Worthy" is a value judgement, eh?  And in order to apply judgement to a
thought, you have to have the thought in the first place.  So... let's
suppose I've got this thought to be evaluated and I decide upon reflection
that it's not worthy.  So I cast it off.  The entire process flits by in a
moment but while all this is going on in the moment, it's a "center stage"
phenomena.  I don't see any way around it, normally.  The one solution I can
imagine is figuring out what is worthy and keeping it center stage.  I guess
that's like focusing on a mantra or somesuch, but I'm not at all sure that
whatever  thoughts arise out of my immediate environmental relationship are
less worthy than a preconceptualized  Ommmmmmm.....

Marsha:
Maybe all your thoughts are worthy, mine are not, lots of nonsense really,
so I just let those thoughts roll on through without accepting them into
awareness. It's nice not having to give attention every thought.   Maybe
that is my trick and I should have kept quiet about it.  I don't need to
answer the phone when it rings either.   

Oregon and California?  Both beautiful!


Marsha




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