[MD] Another parallel
Matt Kundert
pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 18 13:56:47 PDT 2009
Hi John,
John said:
I have been coming to, and am about to reach, the firm
conclusion that Jamesian Pragmatism is NOT the way to go
for the MoQ. William James and Josiah Royce conducted a
lifelong dialogue between Pragmatism and Idealism, and in
every social, static-latching meaningful way, James won,
Royce lost. Lost in obscurity, lost in influence, lost in all but
the most esoteric memory.
Matt:
That's interesting. I think I remember when you first
started posting, and you had a bit on Royce. And I think
somebody said I might know something a little more about
him. But I don't have anything interesting to say about
Royce. My instinct is to say that, between pragmatism and
idealism, pragmatism is the way to go, but that's mainly
because I go in for neither system-talk nor God-talk, which
most 19th/turn of the century idealists have in spades.
Royce's reading of evil as error is an interesting
transmogrification of traditional theodicy into terms more
applicable to modern times, but I confess to not getting
that much out of theodicy in general. A notable episode in
the wheel of history, but, I suspect, not a ghost with much
breath left.
For my money, the neglected philosopher to read is George
Santayana. And in that regard, you might try reading his
short Character and Opinion in the United States. It offers
incisive commentary on both James and Royce, and the
general character of the American intellectual milieu. It's
absolutely magnificent.
John said:
Philosophologists are always certain about their subject,
and philosophers almost never are.
Matt:
Sure, but do you know why "philosophologists" are so
certain? Because they demarcate their subject-material
very finely, cutting off a slice of life, rather than trying to
gaze at the whole. It's the same for any profession. The
only thing that distinguishes a philosopher is that they
can't help but continually be distracted by the whole. But
if every person was a philosopher full-time, then we'd have
no civilization, because no one would've been able to stuff
their doubt into a sack long enough to make a wheel or
start a fire.
If a "philosophologist" is someone who confuses the part
for the whole (knowing a lot about Kant for knowing a lot
about wisdom), then "philophilosophers"--lovers of the love
of wisdom--are those who confuse the whole for the part:
knowing a lot about wisdom for knowing about X. For as
the Greek word sophia makes apparent, its an ineffable
object that you can't know a lot about qua sophia. Every
good philosopher knows--and most through history have
known--that you need the part and the whole, and that
the struggle is knowing how to relate the two.
Matt
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