[MD] Another parallel

[david buchanan]

dmb said:
... James refers to this using the phrase "pure experience" or "the immediate flux of life". James says that subjects and objects are "derived" from this or that this "furnishes the material to our later reflection with it's conceptual categories". Pirsig says subject and objects "spring" from this.
Bo replied:
Right, we are now in ZAMM at the stage that followed the Quality epiphany. 


dmb says:
Nope. The particular phrases above (in quotes) come from the end of chapter 29 in Lila. And I'm talking in general about the MOQ as it is presented in both books. Your focus on "the drawing of a diagram of the new Quality-based metaphysics", which comes from the middle of the first book, is a case of arrested development. To ignore the rest of ZAMM and most of Lila leads to more errors than I can count. You say, for example, that this "resulted in the the Romantic/Classic where the former is DQ and the latter is SQ". This is quite confused. DQ is not romantic thinking. It is not any kind of thinking. Classic and romantic would both be classified as static the way Aristotle and Plato are both philosophers, they way Hume and Hegel are both philosophers.   

Bo said:
Not to give you a chance of disappearing behind you academic smoke-screen I leave it here.

dmb says:
Academic smoke screen? I find it very difficult to respect your bias against learning. It seems you are rejecting the very thing that could help you climb out of that old cup of tea, where you've been swimming around in circles since we met in the mid 1990s. What's worse, you seem to be condemning me for NOT swishing old tea around. I mean, from my perspective, you're hopelessly trapped in a static prison of your own making when somebody tries to throw you a life-line you just get angry about it. It's some kind of solipsistic Stockholm syndrome wherein you are the prisoner and the guard. 


 
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