[MD] Another parallel

david buchanan dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 20 11:40:17 PDT 2009


dmb said:
I think it would be a big mistake to equate DQ with romantic thinking.

Bo replied:
It's plain that the romantic part was what became DQ

Pirsig said:

Phaedrus had spent an enormous amount of time following what turned out to be lousy openings. A particularly large amount of this time had been spent trying to lay down a first line of division between the CLASSIC and ROMANTIC aspects of the universe he'd emphasized in his first book. In that book his purpose had been to show how Quality could unite the two. But the fact that Quality was the best way of uniting the two was no guarantee that the reverse was true - that the classic-romantic split was the best way of dividing Quality. It wasn't. For example, American Indian mysticism is the same platypus in a world divided primarily into classic and romantic patterns as under a subject-object division. When an American Indian goes into isolation and fasts in order to achieve a vision, the vision he seeks is not a romantic understanding of the surface beauty of the world. Neither is it a vision of the world's classic intellectual form. It is something else. Since this whole metaphysics had started with an attempt to explain Indian mysticism Phaedrus finally abandoned this classic-romantic split as a choice for a primary division the the MOQ." 

dmb says:
Bo, I think that any plain reader can plainly see that your claim is plainly wrong. If I had all the time in the world, every one of your claims could be  exposed as an error by simply quoting from the books under discussion. I've disputed all of your central claims that way already but you just stick the metaphysics of Bo no matter what Pirsig or anybody else says. Because of this intentional ignorance, discussing the MOQ with you is really quite pointless. 


  
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