[MD] Empirical and Historical

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 21 Jul 2009 at 17:47, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Platt]
> You obviously don't understand conservatism.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Actually, I understand it quite well. As did Pirsig, in those quotes 
> I've provided. He also understood it in ZMM, when "right-wing 
> politics" attempted to brand him a "radical professor" and fire him.

You understand zilch.
 
> [Platt]
> Have you read Lila? Do you have any concept of how defective 
> intellect has made a mess of things, beginning with Wilson and Roosevelt?
> 
> [Arlo]
> Have you read Lila? Do you have any concept of how the "slow drift" 
> back to social dominance over intellect is NOT the answer?

Again, changing the subject to avoid answering.

> [Platt]
> Your mind is closed tight.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Right. In your dichotomous world, anyone rejecting "conservatism" 
> must be a evil, close-minded, commie, acerdemic perfessor, an enemy 
> of liberty, a hater of freedom, a sauteer of puppies.

As they say, a fox smells is own hole first.
 
> [Platt]
> Nice try at changing the subject. Obviously you don't want to admit 
> to the superiority of the free market, a conservative principal.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Sigh. Same old moronic rhetoric. Who "changed the subject"? I'm only 
> trying to change it back to what it was before you warped it. Perhaps 
> you should go back a few threads and see what the subject was. I can 
> do that, if you want, in my next post. I will give you two bullshit 
> points here, you can spend them at Hannity-online.com for some great 
> teabaggery.
> 
> I don't have to "admit" anything. I favor the market. But  I do not 
> think all things are reducible to market commodities. Nor do I think 
> favoring the market means that nothing should be held in the public 
> trust. I also do not think favoring the "market" means we should not 
> support public libraries, or state lands, or parks, or EMT personnel, 
> or fire/police, or the army, or our roadways and waterways.
> 
> I mean, do you think the Army should be privatized and governed by 
> "the free market"? Should we abolish those dreadful copyright 
> regulations that restrict free activity in the market?
> 
> But obviously YOU do not want to admit the basic principle of the 
> MOQ, that the intellect level is morally superior to the social 
> level. I don't recall any addendum that said this superiority is only 
> valid if the defect is corrected. Can you point to one?

Yadda, yadda, yadda. More idiotic rhetoric. 

> [Platt]
> As for Pirsig commenting about me, check his Introduction to "Lila's 
> Child," written long before you or DMB came on the scene.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Hehe... He said you hit bulls-eyes like a Zen Archer. I suppose 
> anyone who shoots as many arrows must hit a bulls-eye now and then. I 
> read this as about the kindest thing Pirsig could say, which is 
> hardly a ringing endorsement.

Right, Like a Zen archer misses more often than hits. Pathetic.

Since you're incapable of carrying on a sane conversation, I'm outta 
here.