[MD] Another parallel

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi Craig,

The answers to questions (i) and (ii) are generally yes.
Of course in (i) point (2) you don't "have to" interpret that way -
but the term "identify" has a lot bound up in it ... almost by
definition, you are relating it to prior experience - that dependence
you mention ... it would take effort not to. As soon as you do relate,
that referrents have some symbolic element, like elements of language.

Regards
Ian

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:37 AM, <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:
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> [John]
>> the verbal description is linear and
>> interpretative whereas with the picture, it's all there in one quick
>> gestaltish glance.
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> [ Ian]
>> The picture symbolically will enable recall of xxxx thousand
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>> words-worth of conceptual thought, not because those words jump out at
>> you or can be inferred with or without any interpretation from the
>> image, but because the story / message has already been communicated
>> and understood - and hence associated with the image(s) thereafter.
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> I hold out a leaf to you.
> 1) You can just experience its shape, smell, texture, etc.
> 2) You can identify it in some way (in part dependent on the knowledge you have)—e.g., as a leaf, a part of a plant, a green object.
> Now I show you a picture or photo of it.
> 3)   You can identify "what's in the picture" [presumedly using the same knowledge as in 2)].
> Next I say, “Get me…[showing the picture]!”
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> 4) You can interpret what is wanted in many ways: as the original leaf, as a similar leaf, as any leaf, as part of a plant, as a green object, as this very picture, as any picture, and so on.
>      So the questions are:   i) Is the identification in 2) & 3), the same kind of process as the interpretation in 4) & ii) is the interpretation in 4) the same kind of process as understanding a language?
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> Craig
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