[MD] (Fwd) Re: John Carl Critiques Pure Experience:INST01

[John Carl]

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> dmb says:
> > No, the metaphysics of Quality is the big picture and it's an
> > intellectual framework, just as all metaphysical systems are.
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John]


Now Dave, I didn't say big picture... I said "big picture"... I was
describing an attribute.  The MoQ is an intellectual construct of very high
quality, sharable with others.  Yay MoQ.   But that's not the same as the
big picture Quality which provides a contextual values system  we can use to
inquire, "Is the MoQ any good?"    Do you see this point and understand it
fully?  The nature of  a Quality Metaphysic must be dynamic.  Rule number 1
"in the making a good metaphysic" game.


dmb]

> Quality is direct, everyday experience, not a mechanism and certainly
> > not a reductionist mechanism. Quality doesn't need to be proved because
> > the term refers to what all persons already know directly from
> > experience.
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John]


Hardly anybody on the planet is going to deny everyday, direct experience.
 I mean let's face it.  We all do it.  And yet the fundamental existence of
what is Good is not so easily and widely accepted.
 So much so, a Values-Free worldview seems a better choice.  There
must be more to Quality than direct experience, or Phaedrus would have
just impaled himself upon the subjective horn,
- "yeah, Quality is centered in a subject."



 dmb]


> > Quality doesn't need to be proved because the term refers to what all
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> persons already know directly from experience. Do you need a mechanism by
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> which it can be proved that you don't like lima beans? Nope. You just put
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> them in your mouth and you immediately know they're awful. This is not
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> "knowledge" in the conceptual sense of the word, but you know it for sure.
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John]


It ain't truth, that's for sure.  More like mere reality;  and your reality
at that.   My Quality is bigger than lima beans. Which are delicious, btw,
like so much of the earth's goodness and bounty.  They are intrinsically
GOOD.  (I'm gettin' cranked on biocentricism)