[MD] Philosophy and Philosophology

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 30 15:21:02 PDT 2009


It's true, I did use "SOM" in, what we might call, a "de re mode," as opposed "de dictum"--I was ascribing to others the enemy of SOM, though the moniker is Pirsig's.  It's what everybody does in reaching past the idiosyncracies to the commonalities.

I think your comments, Bo, either display a very lonely way of reading philosophy ("nobody is exactly like me therefore I am a lone genius") or a very short reading list, or both.  Writing conceptual histories have been central to a lot of philosophers at least since Hegel.

I think I would agree that James never did write histories on the scale of Hegel (at least, I don't think he did), but Dewey certainly did.

Matt

> From: skutvik at online.no
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:53:56 +0200
> Subject: Re: [MD] Philosophy and Philosophology
> 
> Matt  
> 
>  29 July 
> 
> > Rorty once wrote that between him and Charles Taylor, another
> > larger-than-life philosopher who wrote broad narratives about the
> > course of culture and civilization, when it got right down to it in
> > trying to decide whose way around the debilitating effects of SOM was
> > the best, they'd probably end up talking about the details of their
> > favorite poems and novels, rather than exchanging arguments about the
> > concept of truth. 
> 
> "The debilitating effects of SOM" ..?? Are there other thinkers who 
> have coined the term SOM? Not that I know of. As said there's no lack 
> of wailing over the mind/matter schism and its paradoxes, but no one 
> has - like Pirsig - pointed to it as having its emergence in historical 
> times and thus being a new stage in a greater existential system that 
> were at a non-S/O sage when SOM arrived. This about James, Dewey 
> ..etc. also being aware of SOM - in this context  -i s DMB's delusion 
> too.    
> 
> Bodvar

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