[MD] [Bulk] Re: The case for an Uncreated Source

[MarshaV]

Greetings Ham,

Does my thinking differently you warrant such assumptions?  


Marsha  
 
 
 
 
 

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Ham Priday
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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [MD] The case for an Uncreated Source

Dear Marsha --


> Greetings Ham,
>
> It is only respect for you that I even skimmed the Williams article.
> I am so an atheist that it was difficult to concentrate on the words.
> Experience is Quality, experiencing beauty is Quality, experiencing
> joy is Quality.  There is no need for theist explanation, or scientific
> explanation, for that matter, intellectual explanations only denigrate
> the experience. Imho.  It is a MU thing, beyond division, labels,
> description and definition. There is no need for an understanding
> of purpose or primary source.  It is not this, not that.

I understand your reluctance to consider the meaning of Quality (Value) and 
to simply enjoy the experience of it.  I'm also aware that "theism" is 
anathema to elitist philosophers who want us to believe they've overcome the

dogma of an "unenlightened age".

However, there is a spiritual need in the heart of every human being, and 
philosophy is the intellectual way to explore it.  In my opinion, it's a 
shame to overlook a metaphysical approach to understanding by applying 'MU' 
labels and taking our appreciation of Beauty, Goodness, and Freedom for 
granted.  The "need for an understanding of purpose and source" is an 
important (probably the most important) part of the life-experience.

As an artist, surely you must have acquainted yourself with the pallet 
colors, perspective, and spacial relationships that make a portrait or 
landscape appealing on canvas.  Whether you've taken formal courses or 
simply enjoy it as a hobby, you study painting as an art form.  Why not 
extend this aesthetic interest to the universe you live in and consider its 
metaphysical origins?  Isn't that what philosophy is all about?  Why dismiss

the meaning and purpose of what you've learned to love as meaningless 
speculation?

I enjoy the creative arts, too -- especially classical music, which I 
studied in my youth.  And I have not found that "intellectual explanations 
denigrate the experience."  On the contrary, understanding what Value really

is, emotionally and metaphysically, has enhanced my aesthetic enjoyment and 
led me to the pursuit of a valuistic philosophy.  This is far more 
fulfilling for me than religion, mysticism, and scientific explanations 
which rule out an uncreated source.

Please understand, I'm not trying to sell you Philosophy as a bill of goods.

I'm only suggesting that a spiritualistic worldview can expand your 
philosophical (and esthetic) horizons.

Thanks for responding, Marsha, and best wishes.

Ham

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