[MD] Reductionism

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 3 Jun 2009 at 9:25, X Acto wrote:

> On 3 Jun 2009 at 6:53, X Acto wrote:
> 
> > Platt,
> > Why not back up your own claim? lets see some numbers.
> 
> Platt:
> Begin with the Holocaust: 6 million killed.
> 
> Ron:
> Be specific Platt, this in no way supports your arguement,
> tallies for each is a acceptable way to gage what system killed more.
> 6 millon, opposed to what? how may we make an accurate assessment?
> which system is responsible?

You asked for some numbers. I gave them to you. What do you think is 
my argument? Perhaps if you put it in your own words we can come to 
some agreement.


> > and does the measurement of deaths a proper way to decide
> > which system is "better"? is the lesser of two evils "betterness"?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> 
> > Individuals kill, systems do not. Stalin and Hitler, two individuals gave
> > the orders. Bolshevism and national socialism were masks for totalitarianism.
> > The rule of a lone individual.
> 
> Platt:
> Since when can a lone individual rule without the backing of others? 
> 
> Ron:
> You tell me, you are the perponant of lone individuals making quality
> decisions to change societies.

Lone individuals making quality decisions don't try to rule others. The 
best societies are free societies. Do you agree?



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> > From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:34:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
> > 
> > On 2 Jun 2009 at 22:58, Krimel wrote:
> > 
> > > > [Platt]
> > > > So capitalism has killed as many as communism and fascism? Is that 
> > > > your claim? Let's see some proof. Otherwise, you're just popping off, 
> > > > trying to defend the indefensible. 
> > > > 
> > > > [Krimel]
> > > > Is this some attempt as self parody? Are you trying to make a joke of
> > > > genocide? Because if you are. it's working. You are a really funny guy.
> > > 
> > > [Platt]
> > > Just as I thought. You can't back up your claim. Typical of your posts. 
> > > 
> > > [Krimel]
> > > I would truly like to hear why you think the number matters at all. Is that
> > > really how you measure morality and beauty? We are better if our numbers are
> > > lower?
> > 
> > Nice try at changing the subject. Are you going to back up your claim or 
> > not? On second thought, why do I bother asking?