[MD] Reductionism
MarshaV
marshalz at charter.net
Wed Jun 3 13:36:36 PDT 2009
Marsha is still alive! No one has killed that her.
How many what? have women killed?
How many what? have children killed?
At 04:03 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote:
>yea, that too.
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>how many have men killed Marsha?
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>How many have women killed?
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>how many have children killed?
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>________________________________
>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 4:01:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
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>Marsha:
>How many did men kill?
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>At 03:57 PM 6/3/2009, you wrote:
> > > On 3 Jun 2009 at 6:53, X Acto wrote:
> > >
> > > > Platt,
> > > > Why not back up your own claim? lets see some numbers.
> > >
> > > Platt:
> > > Begin with the Holocaust: 6 million killed.
> > >
> > > Ron:
> > > Be specific Platt, this in no way supports your arguement,
> > > tallies for each is a acceptable way to gage what system killed more.
> > > 6 millon, opposed to what? how may we make an accurate assessment?
> > > which system is responsible?
> >Platt:
> >You asked for some numbers. I gave them to you. What do you think is
> >my argument? Perhaps if you put it in your own words we can come to
> >some agreement.
> >
> >Ron:
> >It is difficult to come to an agreement about which system killed
> more people
> >when you only cite one number, (6 million).
> >
> >to clarify, how many did communism kill?
> >
> >how many did socialism kill?
> >
> >how many did fascism kill?
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> >How many did capitalism kill?
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> >________________________________
> >From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 3:06:36 PM
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
> >
> >On 3 Jun 2009 at 9:25, X Acto wrote:
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> > > > and does the measurement of deaths a proper way to decide
> > > > which system is "better"? is the lesser of two evils "betterness"?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Individuals kill, systems do not. Stalin and Hitler, two
> individuals gave
> > > > the orders. Bolshevism and national socialism were masks for
> > totalitarianism.
> > > > The rule of a lone individual.
> > >
> > > Platt:
> > > Since when can a lone individual rule without the backing of others?
> > >
> > > Ron:
> > > You tell me, you are the perponant of lone individuals making quality
> > > decisions to change societies.
> >
> >Lone individuals making quality decisions don't try to rule others. The
> >best societies are free societies. Do you agree?
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > > > From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:34:07 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism
> > > >
> > > > On 2 Jun 2009 at 22:58, Krimel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > [Platt]
> > > > > > So capitalism has killed as many as communism and fascism? Is that
> > > > > > your claim? Let's see some proof. Otherwise, you're just
> > popping off,
> > > > > > trying to defend the indefensible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Krimel]
> > > > > > Is this some attempt as self parody? Are you trying to
> make a joke of
> > > > > > genocide? Because if you are. it's working. You are a
> > really funny guy.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Platt]
> > > > > Just as I thought. You can't back up your claim. Typical of
> > your posts.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Krimel]
> > > > > I would truly like to hear why you think the number matters
> > at all. Is that
> > > > > really how you measure morality and beauty? We are better if
> > our numbers are
> > > > > lower?
> > > >
> > > > Nice try at changing the subject. Are you going to back up
> your claim or
> > > > not? On second thought, why do I bother asking?
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