[MD] Perceptions: the deception of it all...

[MarshaV]

Mark,

I'm reading dialogues between Krishnamurti and David Bohm trying to 
get at it.  They seem to be calling the world of thoughts 'reality', 
and the direct, full experience 'truth'.  I know truth, but it is 
difficult to let go of all the thinking, the reality, the web of 
patterns.  And if someone asked why bother, what to tell them?  To 
ask and to tell is being back in the web of patterns.  It is a matter 
of neither.  And there is the matter of degrees.  Dabbling around the 
edges versus going to the center of it.  Krimel makes some compelling 
arguments, like the devil.

Capitalism?  Socialism?  Neuroscience?  Under which shell is the 
pea?  Before you know it you're dead, the thoughts are gone, no-thing 
to worry about.   Lunch anyone?


Marsha




At 02:15 AM 6/3/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha,
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>Thanks for that, I am always interested in the possible applications
>of science to metaphysics.  It sounds so authoritative that it leads
>one to believe it is true.  But to apply the message of the film
>to the film, the science, too, is just a perception.  Hard to break out of
>that cave of shadows.
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>Calling it a soul, doesn't do much for me.  It provides no insight,
>just another name.  The ending reminds me of The Matrix...
>Where's Keanu when you need him?
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>What a web of lies we spin!
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>Cheers,
>Willblake
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>On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:30:24 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>Ooops!
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>*** Except for the part about the soul...***
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>Mr. Pirsig and the Buddhists have been correct all along.
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y
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The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and 
interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual, 
static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.

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