[MD] Perceptions: the deception of it all...

[MarshaV]

At 12:24 PM 6/4/2009, you wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:41 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
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> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > I'm reading dialogues between Krishnamurti and David Bohm trying to get at
> > it.  They seem to be calling the world of thoughts 'reality', and the
> > direct, full experience 'truth'.
>
>
>Well they got it backwards then.

John,

Language is a problems?  Are not your static patterns your 
reality?   K and DB arecalling truth the actuality of immediate 
experience.  So if I am translating their terminology properly, 
reality = static patterns, and truth (immediate experience) = 
DQ.   They are both interesting men, and I find their dialogues fascinating.


Marsha


>Truth is abstract, logical, of the word.
>  Reality is direct sensory experience, of the image.
>
>Jaques Ellul wrote a whole book on the subject, The Humiliation of the
>Word, showing
>a relationship between these two realms - Truth vs. Reality and their
>correlation with the word vs. the image.  He makes an eloquent point about
>our two differing ways of perceiving these different realms, our eyes giving
>us information about the world which we equate with reality and our ears
>processing language which we associate with truth.
>
>Yeah, and I know we process the written word with our eyes - but the part of
>our brain which processes words corresponds truth with a codified, logical
>matrix while images impose reality without much logical intervention.  A
>picture is more efficient persuasion.  A picture is worth a thousand words -
>to an advertising executive anyway.




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