[MD] Perceptions: the deception of it all...

[MarshaV]

Andre,

I agree with you.  No-body and no-thing, how did it ever seem otherwise...


Marsha




At 01:07 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha and John,
>
>Krishnamurti felt that truth is a 'pathless land' and when asked who he (K)
>was, he said: 'nobody'. I think this is significant.
>SOM forces us to differentiate/ define/ enclose/ name  etc, etc. The concept
>of 'I' has come about (IMHO) through our individual (meaning analogies upon
>analogies) relationship to DQ. This is the intellectualisation that occurs
>after the experience. There is no self, no ego IN experience. Only
>afterwards we think that we are so special in having this special
>relationship with this special ineffable concept.
>Bullshit! It is open to everyone and made use of by everyone...and when it
>come right down to it (Melanie) we share lots of the analogues as well.
>
>All the sages of the world, when pressed, have denied their own 'I'.
>
>I found it interesting to see on this discuss,that when I introduced the
>'I'  as a non-existent concept, some started to have difficulty with this
>and, once again, using all sorts of SOM logic to justify the existence of
>'themselves' . Curious isn't it?
>
>Andre
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