[MD] A bright note

[blue-jay maple]

> Nick:
>  Politicans, if they are to be virtuous, need to think of something more than
> their person.
 
> Ron:
> Why? they are only following the natural law, life, liberty, 
> property and the pursuit of happiness
> free will.

Nick:
I already went over this.  Maybe you missed it.  Pursuit of happiness is from 
ancient greece.  Happiness in ancient greece is not the way logical positivist 
ulitarians define happy (they define it as a biological pleasure).  Happiness before 
the advent of ulitarian logical positivists who redefined reality vacuous of value, this happiness 
when value was understood is translated from ancient greece as "flourishing".  Flourishing 
means happiness, well-being, quality.  Not all flourishings are natural rights.  Courage is 
a virtue (a flourishing) but that is not law reviewable.

What I said above is this and I already said it in a post to Marsha:

Life (the birth-death cycle) is not the ultimate end or else there would be no 
way to make a distinction between a dog, logical positivist, or Pirsig.  Each of them 
are life (person).  Each of them are on the birth-death cycle (also definition of life).  Reality 
for rational humans is more than mere survival.  The Ultimate telos end is flourishing.  Due 
to flourishing we can define with flourishing, in other words, we can define with quality the 
distinctions between these three birth-death cycles.  We can say that Pirsig is flourishing 
more than a logical positivist.  We argue this in many ways.  ZMM and Lila are arguments 
that Pirsig was onto something of a better quality than logical positivists.  Quality goes further 
than just looking at the person.  A virtuous person is pursuing happiness.  A virtuous person, 
in other  words, is pursuing quality (excellence).

that's the context in which I wrote that

Nick


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