[MD] Coerce me? How?

[John Carl]

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, blue-jay maple <libertytree at mail.com> wrote:

Nick:
> Fine.  Get stabbed to death.  "Indulge" as you say.



Well Nick, if somebody comes at me with a knife, I have the freedom to
defend myself.  I also have choices about the kind of places I visit and to
tell you the truth, I usually choose places where people don't attack me.

I know you can come up with all kinds of hypothetical situations - but none
of them apply to me so why should I be interested?


>
> Nick:
> Ok?  I think I realize you're still alive or who else is typing this if not
> John.  And
> I'm glad nothing has been taken from you.  Taxes are coerced from you
> though.


Not true.  Taxes are built into the economic structure of the society I
choose to partake.  That's not coercion.


 You ever buy bread?  If you don't pay the taxes, even if you want to pay
them or

> not doesn't matter, you will have the police show up with a gun if you
> don't pay
> you property or income taxes.



I've gone years and years without paying either property or income taxes.
 So far, no police.




>  Again.  You can choose and like to pay taxes.  That's
> fine.  That's your choice.  But remember if you don't pay your taxes the
> point of
> the gun is coming.  So whether or not you like to pay taxes it doesn't
> matter.  You
> have to pay them anyways.  You are physically forced to.
>


No I'm not.  You are projecting your fantasies upon me when you know nothing
about me.


>
>
> Nick:
> I'm not being physical aggressive at all.  This is called a computer.  I
> type on it.
> My words are not physically hitting you like a baseball bat would.
>  Definitions...
> lack of intellectual understanding, but are you here to learn or what?
>


Aggressive is more about attitude than baseball bats.  If I was holding a
bat, it would be as a perch for the birdies.  Things don't kill people,
people kill people using things.



>
> John:
> > Kinda funny when you think about it.
> > Or like RMP sez "Nobody is fanatical about the sun rising, you're only
> > fanatical about matters you hold in doubt."  (paraphrased)
>
> Nick:
> Well it's not fanatical for people to not want others to murder them.  It's
> quite
> a real life event.
>


Nick, if I spend every waking moment contemplating hypothetical murders...
then I'd say that would be a bit fanatical.  Wouldn't you?  So it is a
matter of degree.  I don't worry about being murdered and here I am, not
murdered.  Not a real life event at all, in fact.  It's a tv show that
you've absorbed into your brain.  I'd feel sorry for you, but hey, you get
to make your choices like everybody.

John at home and comfortable


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