[MD] Coerce me? How?

[blue-jay maple]

> Nick previously:
> > Fine.  Get stabbed to death.  "Indulge" as you say.

John: 
> Well Nick, if somebody comes at me with a knife, I have the freedom to
> defend myself.  I also have choices about the kind of places I visit and to
> tell you the truth, I usually choose places where people don't attack me.

Nick:
Good.  Then why the whole choice of being coerced or not as you put to "indulge" 
with.

John:
> I know you can come up with all kinds of hypothetical situations - but none
> of them apply to me so why should I be interested?

Nick:
Ok.  This was vague.

> > Nick previously:
> > Ok?  I think I realize you're still alive or who else is typing this if not
> > John.  And I'm glad nothing has been taken from you.  Taxes are coerced from you
> > though.
> 
john: 
> Not true.  Taxes are built into the economic structure of the society I
> choose to partake.  That's not coercion.

Nick:
You can choose all you want.  You can love to pay taxes.  But you still HAVE to cause 
if you don't violation of liberty happens.

Nick previously: 
>   You ever buy bread?  If you don't pay the taxes, even if you want to pay
> them or

John: 
> I've gone years and years without paying either property or income taxes.
>   So far, no police.

Nick:
Well if you HAVE to pay them, if you actually own property and have a job, then 
you haven't gotten caught yet.

John:
> No I'm not.  You are projecting your fantasies upon me when you know nothing
> about me.

Nick:
Like that doesn't happen in this forum.  lol

John:
> Aggressive is more about attitude than baseball bats.  If I was holding a
> bat, it would be as a perch for the birdies.  Things don't kill people,
> people kill people using things.

Nick:
Yeah and?  What's your point?  So people can use baseball bats to kill other 
people and that's called murder if initiated.


> > Nick previously:
> > Well it's not fanatical for people to not want others to murder them.  It's
> > quite a real life event.

John:
> Nick, if I spend every waking moment contemplating hypothetical murders...
> then I'd say that would be a bit fanatical.  Wouldn't you?

Nick:
Strawman.  Going off topic.  Your whole "fanatical" bit was emotive to begin with 
having no rational basis.

John:
> So it is a matter of degree.  I don't worry about being murdered and here I am, not
> murdered.  Not a real life event at all, in fact.  It's a tv show that
> you've absorbed into your brain.  I'd feel sorry for you, but hey, you get
> to make your choices like everybody.

Nick:
John, murder happens.  People get killed.  Your a sadistic vile person thinking that's not 
real.  You've been watching too much TV.  Do like to watch the blood drip?  lol sick


Nick


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