[MD] Coerce me? How?

[blue-jay maple]

> [Nick]
> "Many" like who?  Do you now somebody?
> 
> [Arlo]
> I tried now-ing someone once, really pissed 'em off. But hell, just 
> walking around NYC will get you in contact with many, many people 
> who don't pay taxes, and no one is coming after them. They live off 
> the grid (or on it, I suppose).

Nick:
Arlo that's simple sad.  Not you, but those people.  You're talking about 
homeless people.  I mean to avoid taxes it comes to such squalor?  I feel 
empathy.

Arlo:
> There is plenty of forest land you 
> could live it, "the man" might chase you down if you make you camp 
> near those commie parks, but you could pull it off.

Nick:
Parks aren't commie.  It's ok.  We love parks.  I would personally chip in 
money from them on my own.  I don't need to be coerced to do so.  And 
to have to hide is because you are pushed into a "black market" situation.  
You are against the government and have to hide.  That's what physical 
coercion does to people.  Pushes them into hiding.  That's sad.

Arlo:
> Canada is even 
> better, mucho square miles of unregulated, uncontrolled, wide open 
> land. Knit yourself a tent, barter for some seeds. You'll never pay 
> taxes again, and I guaran-double-dog-tee that no tax-police will 
> ever come looking for you.

Nick:
Sad people have to be physically coerced to run from their loved ones, family, 
and their community they love.  I'll tolerate the government.  I don't want to 
be pushed away from my property and family by a coercive government.  In a 
civil society life would not be so unlawful and criminal.


> [Nick previously]
> And if the government knew I wasn't paying property taxes what would they do?
 
> [Arlo]
> Property taxes are part of the game. No one is forcing you to own 
> land, Nick. Sell it. No more property tax. Poof! Just like that.

Nick:
It's my land Arlo.  You are saying my only option is pay or be physically removed.  
I can choose to sell my land, but to avoid a coercive government you are admitting 
I have to run and hide.  Such a sad life you admit.

> [Nick previously]
> So you want to steal my property too?  Is that it?
 
> [Arlo]
> I am really starting to think you suffer from clinical paranoia. 
> Honestly. It's pretty bad.

Nick:
Well you said if I don't want to pay taxes I can leave my property behind.  That is 
coercing the chooses I can make in my life.  That's not a free choice.  It's called love 
or die (or prison).  That's the choice you are stating.

> [Nick previously]
> I live here and trade with other people and the government steps in 
> on what is a voluntary free market between reason people
> 
> [Arlo]
> Psh. Lots of under the table stuff happens every day. I'm sure you 
> could find people to barter your goods with. Now if you use 
> currency, well, that's another part of the wonderful infrastructure 
> civil governance supports,

Nick:
Nope.  A currency the government is devaluing big time.  That's why there are 
a lot of poor people and unemployment.  The government is destroying houses 
in California so houses become a higher demand and prices stay up.  If the 
government would have let this bubble burst those houses would be very 
cheap and poor people could buy them.  Government screws it up every time.

Arlo:
 so sure you'll have to pay taxes on 
> those transactions. But if you went into your local shops I am sure 
> you could eventually find someone who will trade you a tube of 
> toothpaste for a bushel of apples you've grown. Even better, find 
> some hippy who makes homemade hemp-paste, there are plenty of 
> self-sufficient communes around.

Nick:
Yeah, join the black market and hide from the government.  See even you 
admit I would have to hide my innocent actions from the government to survive 
or else the government will initiate physical coercion.  I'm glad you are getting 
the picture now.

 
> [Nick previously]
> I worked hard for this and the government initiates physical 
> coercion to remove me from my land like another "Trail of Tears".
> 
> [Arlo]
> Right. That's a good analogy. *Rolls eyes.

Nick:
Well you want to force me off my land or else I have to pay taxes.  That's the 
choice you lined up in your little intellectual exercise.

Arlo:
> Hey, why don't you go move in with your brothers from the Trail of 
> Tears? There must be a reservation somewhere that would take you 
> in. And guess what? No more taxes!!!

Nick:
See.  Your sad Arlo.  "Trail of Tears" all over again.  "Shove off Nick to the reservations," Arlo 
says.  Arlo you're heartless.

Nick




-- 
Be Yourself @ mail.com!
Choose From 200+ Email Addresses
Get a Free Account at www.mail.com