[MD] An Observation From An Outsider

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Wed Jun 10 08:53:15 PDT 2009


Platt,
where do you derive this conclusion from the statement making the distinction
about speech that involves the hatred of ideas vs. speech which involves
the hatred of individuals or groups of individuals.?

I hate some of your ideas Platt

I however, do not hate you.

how is this unclear?




 



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From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:34:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider

On 10 Jun 2009 at 8:25, X Acto wrote:

> He did already Platt, 
> "hate speech against
> > specific individuals or groups of individuals." 
> 
> differs from hate speech about  ideas.
> 
> See what I mean about reading what is written and jumping to conclusions?
> 
> -Ron

So is it your idea that someone can speak without having any idea of 
what she is saying? 


> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:15:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] An Observation From An Outsider
> 
> On 10 Jun 2009 at 17:03, Andre Broersen wrote:
> 
> > Platt to Andre:
> > 
> > Does your country have a law against hate speech? If so, do you support it?
> > 
> > Andre:
> > In Holland we enjoy freedom of speech and the hate may be expressed against
> > any IDEA circulated. (recent verdict of the high court). This I fully
> > support. The story is different when one begins to spout hate speech against
> > specific individuals or groups of individuals.
> > 
> > Nice diversion and good try but do answer the questions posed Platt.
> 
> So you do support hate speech laws? Right?
> 
> Can you explain the difference between an idea spoken and a hateful 
> idea spoken? 
> 
> 
> 

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