[MD] Reductionism

[John Carl]

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:59 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

Anyway, the undifferentiated aesthetic continuum, DQ, the primary empirical
> reality, or whatever terms suits your fancy, is not about energy blobs or
> chaotic spews. It's direct experience, pure experience. In that sense, it
> refers to something you already know. Artists are usually especially attuned
> to this cutting edge of experience. Otherwise, you're just painting by
> numbers. You know?
>

Thanks for the time and explanations David.  I'd like to respond to one or
two points.

First "direct experience" seems to put me into subject-object orientation
every time.  Experience "of" and experience "by" are the mental  constructs
that pop into my brain when the word experience pops up in my experience.
 "Pre-conceptualized" is a term I'd prefer to  "direct", but you point out
many different ways of describing the same thing and I get your meaning here
and DQ is quite a fine way to label it and much easier than typing out
"undifferentiated aesthetic continuum".

But essentially, with apologies to Ham, there is a large piece of the
metaphysical pie missing here (at least to my mind) and that is how to get
from DQ to sq.  I've even  heard DQ described as chaos - as in chaotic
change is "better" than static good and that just doesn't make sense.  There
seems to my reasoning to be a logical need for "good" patterning in order
for any meaning at all to arise -  for the inorganic elements of a chemistry
professor to organize themselves or for the arising analogies of intellect
to match closely the Reality they are describing.

Good as a structural pattern of Reality which imposes itself upon the mind
of the discerner so that the empirical deductions which arise in experience
can be judged and chosen.

Pronouncing it as a mystical occurrence  is a cop out when so much intellect
has been expended,explaining so much mystery already.

John the mystical impaired




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