[MD] Member Removal

Fri Jun 12 03:04:58 PDT 2009

Ian,

I think Horse did what he felt he had to do, and I find no fault with 
his decision.

I know it's a game.  Sometimes the game can seem soooo tedious, I 
want to cry.   But I am not a leader; I am the boss of no one.  I 
can, though, dream of a replay with a better ending.

Marsha

At 05:55 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
>As I said Marsha
>
>(IMHO, I'm not Horse)
>
>"Nothing irrecoverable"
>The game is never "over" ... and it is a "game".
>
>Ian
>
>On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:19 AM, MarshaV<marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > Ian,
> >
> > I missed it.  I thought it was much like the normal tirade between those
> > that like to verbally brawl.  Even if one party felt physically frightened,
> > is that it, game over?  I never thought of Nick's talk as other than
> > metaphorical.  -  When did intellect leave the stage?  And good sense?  And
> > I will confess that I did not give Nick's ideas a fair hearing, because I
> > was off into my own little, and I do mean little, world.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:56 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Evil Douchebag & MK ... very witty I'm sure ...
> >>
> >> IMHO It's not that it's against the rules to be frivolous or
> >> disrepectful of "norms" - in a Kynical kinda way - that's a necessary
> >> part of the process. The "rule" is that it has to be exceptional, not
> >> general or exclusive or sustained - what may be a frivolous mental
> >> exercise to the sender becomes an unhinged rant to the receivers.
> >>
> >> Nothing irrecoverable though.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM, M K<ubu_mk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > You mean it's against the rules to be frivolous? Gasp!
> >> >
> >> > Maybe it's time for me to get serious and "confront" theistic duality or
> >> > something important sounding like that.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks <evildouchebag2 at yahoo.com>, I needed that!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Lord Arioch <evildouchebag2 at yahoo.com>
> >> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:40:22 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [MD] Member Removal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > burn the books etc, etc.
> >> > It is all so easy. Come up with something constructive? NO! Remove or
> >> > destroy seems to be their only battle cry, with nothing put in its
> >> > place. A
> >> > sad state of affairs.
> >> >
> >> > M K:
> >> > Sounds rather DQ doesn't it? ( smiley face emoticon )
> >> >
> >> > yess delicously ssso
> >> >
> >> > how perceptive
> >> >
> >> > how sweet
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: M K <ubu_mk at yahoo.com>
> >> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:32:08 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [MD] Member Removal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>
> >> > To: moq_discuss at lists.moqtalk.org
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:25:09 PM
> >> > Subject: [MD]  Member Removal
> >> >
> >> > Craig:
> >> > It's not quite right to say the?LPF "self-destructed", when its
> >> > leader?Pim
> >> > Fortuyn was?assassinated.??(The assassin? was sentenced to 18 years in
> >> > prison.) Craig was sentenced to 18 years in prison.)
> >> > Andre:
> >> > Sorry Craig but I am unsure what you are getting at. Fortuyn had an
> >> > idea. He
> >> > was killed for expressing this. The killing an absolute immoral act. His
> >> > idea gathered him friends and like-minded people, forming a 'Party' and
> >> > getting seats in local and state parliament.
> >> > The 'idea' was of a nature a la Wilders...likeminded one-liners
> >> > condemming
> >> > all there is wrong but not offering a coherent set of ideas to
> >> > ameliorate
> >> > the situation. In their attempt to find it ( without the guidance of
> >> > their
> >> > leader) they started to quibble, argue, accuse, blame, contradict and
> >> > what
> >> > have you amongst themselves. Members of the party were found to have
> >> > criminal records, links with ultra right-wing ideologies, falsified
> >> > their
> >> > backgrounds  etc, etc.
> >> >
> >> > Ego's clashed with ego's and that is how they self-destructed. There is
> >> > little of them left. Divided, individualistically you fall....it has
> >> > nothing
> >> > to do with politics.
> >> >
> >> > Predictions are that the same will happen to Wilders and his group. The
> >> > only
> >> > idea they have is that they are against something, expose weaknesses,
> >> > put
> >> > the blame on those in power and leave it at that.
> >> > Even their front man, Wilders, does not give press conferences, nor
> >> > interviews. His meetings are not to be recorded (radio or TV). Any
> >> > person
> >> > critical of his idea is barred from entering a debate..He delivers
> >> > one-liners
> >> > and plays into the hands of the populace holding populistic answers (ban
> >> > them, throw them out, lock them up, close the borders, blame The Hague,
> >> > burn
> >> > the books etc, etc.
> >> > It is all so easy. Come up with something constructive? NO! Remove or
> >> > destroy seems to be their only battle cry, with nothing put in its
> >> > place. A
> >> > sad state of affairs.
> >> >
> >> > They will destroy themselves as well. I just wonder how many more of
> >> > these
> >> > ideas 'people' will fall for.
> >> >
> >> > But again, maybe I have misunderstood your meaning.If I have; apologies!
> >> >
> >> > Andre, (going into op. tomorrow. Hoping all goes well. If not, I'll meet
> >> > you
> >> > in the next world, and don't be late! [Hendrix,Voodoo Chile].
> >> > Peace everyone.
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