[MD] Free speech

[MarshaV]

I am so steeped (as in tea of a different flavor) in the emptiness of 
patterns that it comes quickly to mind.  It's quite possible that I 
will still push the wisdom aside, but it's gained in strength and has 
become quite insistent.  And while my definition of self may be 
boring to tears, it does express the proper perspective.

Family is the toughest nut, but it is getting easier.  After all 
family members are mostly my own static patterns of value too.  Of 
course, my significant other is a 9 lb black poodle.


Marsha




At 09:09 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>  I use it for stratagizing and planning, designing  it can be very useful in
>aligning intent also. Useful. When it becomes a hinderance I let it fall
>into the backround and focus on the now. I try to have it serve me instead
>of me serving it. The problem is recognizing when it is a help or a 
>hinderance.
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>-Ron
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>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:47:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Free speech
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>Hi Ron,
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>And isn't this the problem of many types patterns.  So running on
>automatic are these patterns that a fresh evaluation of an
>experience/event is never considered.  What was liberating for me was
>to understand the nature of all patterns, and letting them take
>second place importance whenever possible.  When caught in a
>difficult pattern-loop, it becomes easier to label it 'conceptually
>constructed pattern', drop it, and move on for a more direct
>experience.  I find the sweeping dismissal works far better than
>trying to combat every instance.
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>Marsha
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>At 08:07 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
> >John,
> >You bring up an interesting point, are we in fact promoting
> >legislating the words
> >or the act of threates and intimidation which may include words.
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> >What do you do with people locked in thought traps, burning in
> >hatred and fear?  I still
> >catch myself obsessing about things.
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> >I'll invent scenerios in my mind  getting me emotionally charged
> >which sets the tone for how I approach expereince.
> >
> >People have the power to infuence expereince and most are not aware
> >of it. An ability
> >undisciplined, unrecognized and misunderstood in our culture.
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> >________________________________
> >From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:03:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Free speech
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> >Interesting right now with a holocaust denier so much in the news...
> >What it has led me to wonder is the proper role of ostracism.  If we deny
> >the hater his speech, isn't that just more likely to force him into action?
> >Since this thread began with Nick, it's relevant to wonder if we don't
> >scapegoat others as a way of making ourselves look better, building group
> >unity in the name of ostracising whereas the higher quality way would be to
> >refine our intellectual tools of persuasion in the hopes that the lost might
> >be saved.
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> >John the saintly sounding
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> >On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM, <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Ron,
> > >  So I would not shout
> > > down and otherwise prevent a Holocaust denier from speaking on
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