[MD] Free speech

[MarshaV]

Wonderful paper Platt!!!

I can get very excited as if I have just discovered FIRE.  But this 
insight has been available through all time.  Thank you for giving me 
the opportunity to recognize your wisdom.


Marsha


At 09:34 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>Great advice and great quote from Schiller:
>
>"He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has."
>  (Friedrich von Schiller)
>
>Long ago that insight prompted me to write, "Say Hello to Now,"
>available (thanks to Horse) in the MOQ Forum, the last sentence summing up
>the meaning of the present moment: "After all, I am you."
>
>Platt
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:47 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Ron,
> >
> > And isn't this the problem of many types patterns.  So running on automatic
> > are these patterns that a fresh evaluation of an experience/event is never
> > considered.  What was liberating for me was to understand the nature of all
> > patterns, and letting them take second place importance whenever possible.
> >  When caught in a difficult pattern-loop, it becomes easier to label it
> > 'conceptually constructed pattern', drop it, and move on for a more direct
> > experience.   I find the sweeping dismissal works far better than trying to
> > combat every instance.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:07 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> John,
> >> You bring up an interesting point, are we in fact promoting legislating
> >> the words
> >> or the act of threates and intimidation which may include words.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you do with people locked in thought traps, burning in hatred and
> >> fear?  I still
> >> catch myself obsessing about things.
> >>
> >> I'll invent scenerios in my mind  getting me emotionally charged which
> >> sets the tone for how I approach expereince.
> >>
> >> People have the power to infuence expereince and most are not aware of it.
> >> An ability
> >> undisciplined, unrecognized and misunderstood in our culture.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:03:00 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] Free speech
> >>
> >> Interesting right now with a holocaust denier so much in the news...
> >> What it has led me to wonder is the proper role of ostracism.  If we deny
> >> the hater his speech, isn't that just more likely to force him into
> >> action?
> >> Since this thread began with Nick, it's relevant to wonder if we don't
> >> scapegoat others as a way of making ourselves look better, building group
> >> unity in the name of ostracising whereas the higher quality way would be
> >> to
> >> refine our intellectual tools of persuasion in the hopes that the lost
> >> might
> >> be saved.
> >>
> >> John the saintly sounding
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM, <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ron,
> >> >  So I would not shout
> >> > down and otherwise prevent a Holocaust denier from speaking on
> >> > campus,
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> > _____________
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> > "He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has."
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> >
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"He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has."
   (Friedrich von Schiller)