[MD] Reductionism
MarshaV
marshalz at charter.net
Tue Jun 23 05:47:33 PDT 2009
At 07:43 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha to Krimel:
>I did not state anything was about Bo, but the idea that the
>intellectual level is lost in an endless battle of subject and object
>reasoning. Science is about subjects discovering truth by dividing,
>defining and knowing objects. A tool that may be useful, or harmful,
>depending on the hearts of the individual's who use it.
>
>Andre:
>Hi Krimel, Marsha (thank you for your kinds words re my recovery...I am
>working on it).
>
>The tool science uses to divide and discover etc, are wonderful. They have
>proved their worth but you reminded me of a passage I read recently in a
>wonderful book ( Anthony, I am forever grateful to you for attending me to
>it). It says:
>'My belief is simply this: paradoxes tap directly into the non-algorithmic
>depth of knowing. As do poetry and music.The use of non-algorithmic knowing
>does not mean that one has to abandon science. Just the reverse. Philosopher
>of science Thomas Kuhn has pointed out [and Pirsig has stated this likewise]
>that almost all the great advances in science have come about not from logic
>or reason but from 'Eureka' moments- flashes of insight that are at the root
>indistinguishable from the moments of creative inspiration that fire
>music,literature or art. After the instantaneous synthesis of a deep insight
>the crafting of a detailed scientific theory is only a sophisticated
>'mopping up' operation. Logic is thus a TOOL of insight, not its GUIDE.
>If scientific and artistic insights both stem from non algorithmic
>consciousness ( Pirsig argues this, though I am unsure how he feels about
>the use of concept 'consciousness'...anyone??) then those aesthetic
>qualities that cluster around the word 'beautiful' should have some guiding
>role in our quest for truth. Many scientists now believe this'
>(Darryl Reanney, 'Music of the Mind' p 11, my emphasis).
>
>My understanding is thus that the dividing, discovering, dissecting etc is
>all nice and logic and reason as tools are great. But, after the discovery,
>to then use the same tools to explain things within a greater
>(non-scientific) context is wrong and short-sighted.
>
>IMHO
>
Hi Andre,
When I was a very little girl I would make formulas concocted of
whatever I could find to put into the same bottle. Nothing was too
sacred for my experimentation. Today I seem to be following the same
strategy with my mind: from quantum mechanics to 'not this, not
that'. At the moment the results are mostly peals of laughter, but
then I love to laugh...
Marsha
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(Friedrich von Schiller)
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