[MD] A transcendent moral order

[MarshaV]

Greetings Ham,

I not only understood your posts, but agreed wholeheartedly, and that 
felt very good.


Marsha


At 02:05 PM 6/29/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha --
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>
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>>I agree with Platt.  Your last few posts in defence of Value and 
>>presenting your insight into RMP's view were quite wonderful,
>>and I was quite taken back at how much your view seemed to
>>blend perfectly with the MoQ.  It could be that my view had 
>>broadened as much as yours had changed.  Anyway, it made me happy.
>
>Glad to have made you happy, Marsha.  But, as you must know, 
>Essentialism as posited by Ham has always been a valuistic 
>philosophy.  To avoid controversy, I have made some effort lately to 
>reconcile my metaphysical worldview with that of Mr. Pirsig.  For 
>example, I concede that Value is paramount in existence because it 
>is man's link to the essential source. However, although our primary 
>sense of value is undifferentiated, it is always experienced as 
>relative rather than absolute.  It is relative to the observing 
>subject and specific to the objective phenomenon experienced.
>
>Anything that is abstracted and objectivized ("patterned") in a 
>relational way cannot be Absolute Essence which contains no 
>"otherness".  That is my major quarrel with Pirsig's "universal" 
>DQ.  He implies that Quality is the source of reality, yet his 
>description of it is limited to experiential existence, or at least 
>to the quality patterns that represent the physical universe.
>
>Another difference in our philosophies is the suggestion that 
>Quality (DQ) evolves to "betterness".  If anything moves to 
>betterness it is man and his value-sensibility.  The primary source 
>of an evolving universe cannot itself evolve.  Essence is not only 
>absolute and uncreated but immutable, and that's why the individual 
>self can only partake of it valuistically.
>
>Anyway, thanks for the nice words.
>
>Essentially yours, as always,
>Ham


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