[MD] the meaning Hobbes's meaning

[MarshaV]

At 03:20 PM 3/1/2009, you wrote:
>david B on Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:41: you posted
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>Marsha said to David Swift: Philosophizing indeed, and with such a
>distinguished list as Hobbes, Hume, Locke and Kant.  It's hard to believe
>there would be exact agreement between these philosophers, especially in
>regards to a word like 'feeling' with its many definitions and multiple
>layers of connotation.  Maybe you can offer some quotes as evidence to
>establish their agreement of usage and definition. ...'Feeling' like all sq
>is sometimes conventionally useful and has a beauty of its own.
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>dmb says: I think that's right. Feelings and instincts would probably be a
>static biological response to DQ. Hume was an empiricist and so is Pirsig
>but there is an important distinction between the traditional forms of
>empiricism and the radical empiricism of the MOQ. The former is also called
>sensory empiricism because it holds that the external objective world comes
>to us through the senses, through the sense organs, and it does so from
>within the assumptions of subject-object metaphysics. The radical empiricism
>of William James, which is adopted by the MOQ, differs from this by both
>rejecting the metaphysical assumptions and by expanding the notion of what
>counts as empirical evidence. In traditional empiricism we experience
>reality through the senses but in radical empiricism experience is reality.
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>DS says: Thanks for making the distinction. Are you all in agreement that
>TiTs don't exist in MoQ? Have you gone completely over to the idealism of
>Schopenhauer? If so what sense do you make of the inorganic SQ level?


Greetings David,

For me there are no TiTs, not even on the Inorganic Level.  Not 
rocks, not mountains, not atoms are discreet entities.  No 
phenomenon, no static patterns of value have inherent existence.  I 
am not a Materialist or an Idealist.  Rocks, mountains and atoms 
exist conventionally, but are empty of inherent existence.


  Marsha


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