[MD] The Quality/MOQ dichotomy.

[skutvik at online.no]

Krimel and Andre.

On 3 Mar. 

Krimel:
> The disservice I am referring to specifically is the claim that the
> Quality of ZMM is called DQ in Lila. There are two ways to understand
> this. The first and the one I think Pirsig and dmb use, is that DQ IS
> Quality. As a result there is no Quality in the Metaphysics of Quality
> only DQ and SQ. Aside from being awkward; it turns the MoQ into a form
> of dualism which I believe Pirsig would specifically like to reject.

I had a hunch that Pirsig somewhere says so, it necessarily must 
be and I agree vehemently with the MOQ being a DQ/SQ dualism 
(there are only dualisms) but I had to smile to Krim's assertion 
about Pirsig seeing DQ= Quality. He ought to have realized the 
simple fact that the MOQ is the DQ/SQ dualism, but repeatedly try 
to uphold the monism chimera of a Quality that may be cut 
arbitrarily. Ref the Quality/MOQ travesty.        

Andre:
> I am still not quite sure what the problem is Krimel ( I'm a bit thick
> sometimes). You say 'there is no Quality in the Metaphysics of Quality
> only DQ and SQ'. But... this is the first slice Pirsig made!! Quality
> sliced into DQ/SQ!

About no value in the MOQ I can't fathom either. A little note to 
Andre: DQ/SQ is not the first slice OF Quality.  ZAMM's P. had his 
epiphany of Quality being the source of subjects and objects, thus 
the realization of DQ was born along with the realization SQ.  
Quality is in the  MOQ.    

IMO

Bodvar