[MD] the meaning Hobbes's meaning

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Wed Mar 4 05:13:10 PST 2009


At 07:59 AM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
> > At 07:08 AM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
> > >Marsha,
> > >
> > >I like your description of "self."
> > >
> > > > The self is an ever-changing,
> > > > collection of interrelated and interconnected, inorganic,
> > biological,
> > > > social and intellectual, static patterns of value responding to
> > > > Dynamic Quality.
> > >
> > >I take it this means you believe the self is no illusion even though
> > Pirsig
> > >and some others say it is.
> > >
> > >Platt
> > >
> >
> >
> >   Hi Platt,
> >
> > The self is empty of independent (inherent) existence, therefore it
> > is an illusion but,,, conventionally it is user-friendly and
> > useful.  -   Where would I hang this _I_ if I didn't have this
> > conventional, but illusionary self?   Who would I dance with all day
> > if I didn't have this illusionary self?  Who would create this play
> > that is life?
> >
> >
> > Marsha
>
>Hi Marsha,
>
>Is "self" then a matter of expediency -- a useful figment of imagination,
>like some find God to be?
>
>Platt

Platt,

As far as I know, self isn't other than an ever-changing, collection 
of interrelated and interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and 
intellectual, static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.

Maybe what is of interest is what pattern is active at any given 
nano-second.  Maybe it is interesting, but maybe not.  The 
God-static-pattern-of-value is not meaningful to me.

Marsha






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