[MD] Faith/Skepticism

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Thu Mar 5 06:34:30 PST 2009


At 09:12 AM 3/5/2009, Michael wrote to dmb:
>You'd ridicule, Marsha would wax spiteful, Arlo would pounce on
>the irrationality...

Michael,

As you wish...


"The MOQ supports religion but does not support many Christian traditions."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


The MOQ is an atheistic religious outlook that solves rather than 
bypasses religious problems.
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"Quality is nature. The MOQ says there is no spiritual principle in 
man that makes knowledge possible. Nature does the whole job."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"The MOQ does not rest on faith. In the MOQ faith is very low quality 
stuff, a willingness to believe falsehoods."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"The MOQ would add a fourth stage where the term "God" is completely 
dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of intellectual and 
Dynamic freedom. The MOQ is not just atheistic in this regard. It is 
anti-theistic."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"The selling out of intellectual truth to the social icons of 
organized religion is seen by the MOQ as an evil act."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"Faith is not required for an understanding of Quality. Here Quality 
succeeds where Bradley's Absolute and Hegel's Being and the Buddhist 
Nothingness and the Hindu Oneness and the theists' God and Allah and 
you-name-it, all of them fail. For Quality, no faith is required 
because there is no way you can disbelieve that there is such a thing 
as quality. You cannot conceive of or live in a world in which 
nothing is better than anything else."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"For quality, no faith is required because there is no way you can 
disbelieve that there is such a thing as quality."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)


"When you hear the words 'spirit' and 'faith' always look for a 
traditional religionist trying to sneak his goods in the back door. 
...like the positivists, the MOQ drops spirit and faith, cold."
    (Pirsig, Copleston Annotations)



Marsha




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