[MD] the meaning Hobbes's meaning

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sun Mar 8 12:39:04 PDT 2009


At 02:02 PM 3/8/2009, you wrote:
>Earlier today, Bodvar Skutvik posted a Pirsig (ZMM) quote to Andre 
>that would appear to refute my argument against an independent 
>Quality.  It was posed in the form of a question::
>
>    ".....that before the beginning of the earth, before the sun
>    and the stars were formed, before the primal generation of
>    anything, Quality existed. Sitting there, having no mass of
>    its own, no energy of its own, not in anyone's mind
>    because there wasn't anyone, not in space because there
>    was no space either, not anywhere...this Quality still
>    existed?''
>
>Marsha was quick to point that Bo had misquoted Pirsig.  Apparently 
>it was not "Quality" but "the law of Gravity" that was alleged to 
>exist prior to mankind.  My own opinion is that neither of these 
>assertions can be true. Quality can't exist without subjective 
>discernment, and a "law" is an axiom or principle intellectualized by man.

Greetings Ham,

Bo clearly stated that he had substituted Quality for the law of 
Gravity.  I thought the way Bo had physically manipulated the 
dialogue gave the impression of the opposite connotation from that in 
the book.


Marsha




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