[MD] Quality and Free Will

Joseph Maurer jhmau at sbcglobal.net
Sat Mar 28 10:25:30 PDT 2009 

On Friday 27 March 2009 10:36 PM Markhsmit writes:

<snip>
> Why does Quality trend towards harmony, or growth, or being in
> phase?  That is obvious.  The intense love between between two
> people is the sharing and harmonic growth of Quality.  Quality loves
> itself, it runs with the pack.

> Is there anybody out there to harmonize with this post?

Hi Markhsmit,

The existence of quality also evolves to distinct levels.  That makes
harmony possible.  Different levels of existence.

Joe  



On 3/27/09 10:34 PM, "markhsmit" <markhsmit at aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks Joe,
> 
> That's exactly what I meant!  Nothing (left) to lose, not even Bobby.
> 
> Quality (as expressed through free will) trends towards harmonics (for lack of
> a better word).   This harmony has no human value associated with it, it can
> be bad or good, beautiful or ugly. It attracts and connects,  reverberates and
> grows in a crowd.  It is the reason for the crowd, and then it subsides.
>   Quality is like a wave, when it meets similar waves of itself, it is
> additive (does not cancel) and Quality Grows.  Take for example an orchestra
> playing in the same key, the individual music is additive and intoxicating for
> the players and crowd (who add to the growth of the Quality).  Take for
> example a group of people enjoying a hike, the Quality shared between is
> additive, its much more fun to share.  Quality is additive in a football
> stadium amongst the crowd, and is additive in a panic during a fire.  Quality
> seeks this harmony.  Harmonic Quality is present during a presidential
> election, and on a battlefield to the death.  Harmonic Quality is the reason
> religions and philosophies grow.  It is the reason for communal greed
> and possessiveness, for the shared fear of death.  
> 
> Quality is shared through the exchange of ideas, it can be considered
> contagious except that it is not passed along, but is the source.  Language is
> the vector for exchange.  Ever meditated with a group of monks?
>  It's incredible.  That is the harmonic growth of Quality.  It's how Quality
> trends.  We know when we are in this group Quality, we feel swept away, part
> of a larger thing.  We know exactly what it is.  We stick together and
> consider our Quality to be better than those others, it is the way it works.
>  We seek like-minded because of this tendency of Quality.  Our free will, is
> to grow that wave, or not.  
> 
> Quality is the reason mass is condensed energy; it is energy, (or atoms if you
> will) in harmony.  Quality is the reason the sun coalesces into a ball of
> flame, and why the planets circle together continuously (resembling a wave,
> mathematically).  It is the reason galaxies spiral.  It is action shared, it
> is in harmony, because that is its tendency.
> 
> Quality arrises from nowhere.  Where is the wave on a guitar string before it
> is plucked? the music?  The same place Quality is.  The string is struck and
> sound comes forth, in the same way the wave of Quality appears out of nowhere.
>  When guitar strings mix, you have music, if it fits together (like minded) it
> grows.  Where are the waves on a still lake.  They are there as potential..
>  Where is the electron when it is not there?  It is there, it is simply a flat
> wave (straight line), but there.  Where am I when I'm not here?  It's the same
> thing.  
> 
> Why does Quality trend towards harmony, or growth, or being in phase?  That is
> obvious.  The intense love between between two people is the sharing and
> harmonic growth of Quality.  Quality loves itself, it runs with the pack.
> 
> Is there anybody out there to harmonize with this post?
> 
> Oh, well...
> 
> Willblake2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2009, at 12:22:21 PM, "Joseph Maurer" <jhmau at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 26 March 2009 10:59 PM Markhsmit writes to all:
> 
>> Free will, which is another name for Quality, provides us with the
>> will to believe. We are free to believe in God, in Evolution, in
>> Happiness.. We are free to believe that scientific positivism is
>> the only reality, or one of many. Quality arrises in us through
>> Intent. Sometimes this Intent makes it as far as
>> our intellectual mind. We consider choices, and make them. Every
>> choice shuts down the alternative (you can't gain something without
>> losing something), but the choices thereafter are infinite. We take
>> the left fork in the path of an ever forking road. That free will
>> is Quality's expression. That free will began long before us.
>> Sometimes we call it Chance, or Chaos, or the Divine, or Self
>> Assembly, or a Selective Process. All Selective Processes are no
>> different from our own. They are all free will.
> 
> 
> Hi Markhsmit,
> 
> A song to ponder: 
> 
> Busted flat in Baton Rouge waiting for a train,
> Feeling just as faded as my Jeans!
> Bobby thumbed a Diesel down just before it rained.
> Took us all the way to New Orleans!
> 
> I took my Harpoon out of my dirty red bandana,
> And was playing soft while Bobby sang the Blues!
> With those windshield wipers slapping time,
> And Bobby¹s hand enclosed in mine,
> We sang-up every song that driver knew
> 
> Freedom¹s just another word for nothing left to lose!
> Freedom ain¹t worth nothing! But it¹s free!
> Feeling Good! Was easy, Lord! when Bobby sang the blues!
> Brother that was good enough for me!
> Good enough for me, and Bobby McGhee!
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 3/26/09 10:59 PM, "markhsmit" <markhsmit at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Free will, which is another name for Quality, provides us with the will to
>> believe.  We are free to believe in God, in Evolution, in Happiness...  We
>> are
>> free to believe that scientific positivism is the only reality, or one of
>> many.  Quality arrises in us through Intent.  Sometimes this Intent makes it
>> as far as our intellectual mind.  We consider choices, and make them.  Every
>> choice shuts down the alternative (you can't gain something without losing
>> something), but the choices thereafter are infinite.  We take the left fork
>> in
>> the path of an ever forking road.  That free will is Quality's expression..
>>  That free will began long before us.  Sometimes we call it Chance, or Chaos,
>> or the Divine, or Self Assembly, or a Selective Process.  All Selective
>> Processes are no different from our own.  They are all free will.
>>  
>> Willblake2
>>  
>>  
>> On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:30:14 PM, markhsmit <markhsmit at aol.com> wrote:
>> From: markhsmit <markhsmit at aol.com>
>> Subject: [MD] Quality and Free Will
>> Date: March 19, 2009 9:30:14 PM PDT
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Quality exists.  We break it down into subjective patterns to discuss it,
>> little boxed systems.  We interpret Quality through our senses, our dynamic
>> interplay with what is.  It is this subjective patterning that is our true
>> free will, we are free to interpret the way things seem.  In fact that is the
>> only free will we have.  Whether we turn right or left, feel good or bad,
>> makes no difference because we are still within our interpretation.  However
>> that interpretation can change on a dime.
>>  
>> Why does that freedom of interpretation exist?  Does it exist in everything.
>>  Does it exist in Quality?  How much of it is free?  How much do we have
>> rational control over?  How much does survival control our freedom?  
>>  
>> At the interface of what's outside us and within is constant communication.
>>  That communication results in feelings (or emotions, passions).  Our
>> intellectual brains are extensions of those feelings, nothing more, which
>> break them up into a million parts.  When I change my mind or become
>> temporarily enlightened, it's not because I have collected enough facts (how
>> many is enough?), it's because it feels right.  Our free will comes from the
>> interface.  It is neither within nor without, it is that dynamic interplay.
>>  It is like music which comes from the interface of the speaker and the air,
>> or the interface of the air and our eardrums.  Somewhere in between.  Free
>> will is no more our actions than the forces outside, it comes from somewhere
>> in between, and we feel it.  It is that freewill that creates Quality.  Free
>> will is Quality.
>>  
>> Willblake2
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