[MD] Faith/Skepticism

[MarshaV]

At 11:00 AM 3/3/2009, you wrote:
> >Marsha
> >Science is not an independent entity.  Who does science for its own
> >sake these days?  Are you a gentlemen scientist?  I don't think
> >so.  The underpinnings of science are corporate, economic, and
> >political, all driven by the profit margin.  Of course you might add
> >hubris to the list of supports.
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >Science has suffered tragically for the past eight years under an
> >administration whose central theme seems to have been, "we were told there
> >would be no math..." Pure research has typically been funded by the federal
> >government at the university level. That it has not been adequately funded,
> >is a serious problem that the new administration seems committed to
> >correcting. (It is soooooo refreshing to have smart people in charge for a
> >change.) But again the problems are political not scientific. Of course
> >science is not independent but the problems that you bitch about are not
> >scientific, they are, as I keep trying to tell you, political, economic and
> >philosophical. Try to keep up, will you?
>
>Marsha
>Science is corporate, economic, and political.
>
>[Krimel]
>So far in your three post sputter all you have done is restate my case for
>me.
>Thanks!
>


Krimel,

Here's what you posted:

Krimel:
It is not a failure of scientists that politicians, economists and
capitalists use and exploit the fruits a science.

Marsha:
My point is that science cannot be separated from corporate, 
economic, and political processes, and neither can 
scientists.  Scientists are not separate independent entities who are 
distinct from the failure.


Marsha



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