[MD] The Quality/MOQ dichotomy.

[MarshaV]

Krimel,

It's about the prejudicial and negative language which makes your 
description shit happening.


Marsha


At 12:57 PM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
>Krimel:
>As I have said before I think submitting to the will of a God whose nature
>cannot be known is functionally equivalent to killing desire but at least it
>leaves the population with hope for a new day and a brighter future for
>their children. The Oriental dream for a bright future is to be dead,
>completely dead with no reincarnation, no nothing: Dead. It is one thing for
>a nihilist to see that dead is dead, that's how it is, and another for the
>"enlightened" to make it their goal.
>
>Andre:
>Krimel, I know that freedom of speech through expressing your opinion was an
>intensely fought for intellectual pattern of Quality.
>This highly valued moral code, among others, established the supremacy of
>the intellectual order over the social order.
>By judging and condemming 'Oriental culture' from the premiss of
>your religion (a social pattern of value) is, to say the least, arrogant. It
>also shows me that you are not deserving of using this moral code...some
>intelligence and responsibility is required to keep it an intellectual
>pattern. Otherwise you abuse/devour it to meet/justify your own religious
>purpose and conviction. I consider that an immoral act.
>
>The argument you put forward using your understanding of buddhism shows me
>that you know sweet fuck all about Buddhism and even less about 'Oriental
>culture'.
>
>Please refrain from condemming what you do not understand.
>
>[Krimel]
>I was not "judging" anything. I was commenting on Bo's judgment which as
>usual is flawed. He was commenting on the Superiority of Eastern culture. A
>view shared by many here. I was not condemning Eastern culture; I was merely
>saying it is not without flaw and there is little basis for calling it
>"superior".
>
>The fact is I have often been critical of attempts to condemn other cultures
>in light of our own and I have been quick to point out some of the failing
>and hypocrisy of western culture. This forum is not without its bigots,
>Platt, Ham and Bo are all guilty. Your hero Bo makes blatantly anti-Semitic
>and anti-Muslim comments in nearly every post and reveals his shallow
>understanding of theology, history, philosophy and the MoQ at every breath.
>I was just adding a particular comment to my list.
>
>That said, exactly where in what I actually said do you find error? Are you
>saying that Buddhism does not advocate passivity and the elimination of
>desire? Are you saying that Hinduism and Buddhism do not aim towards escape
>from the cycle of death and rebirth? Because if my understanding is faulty I
>will be quick to apologize. If not go, fuck yourself; sweetly.
>
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