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Tue May 5 15:32:55 PDT 2009

You are quite correct, I have sent far too many posts.  Sorry.  -Marsha

At 06:10 PM 5/5/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha: Will you please stop twittering us 500 times a day and start 
>making Arlo some chicken soup. It will make him feel better.
>
>Thanking you in advance.
>
>--- On Tue, 5/5/09, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [MD] Patterns s/o or relationship???
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 7:00 PM
>
>
>
>I just read a book by a Nobel prize winning physicist, and he
>certainly made it sound like they were close to having reality by the
>TiTs. Did you listen to that BBC IOT program?  That discussion gave
>the impression physicists weren't sure of anything.  Maybe neither of
>us are correct, or we're both correct, or maybe we are both correct
>and incorrect,,, yes, no and all of the above.
>
>I certainly don't mind you stepping into the post, not at all.  I was
>trying to point out that in communicating I seem to be unable to
>avoid subject/object language and assumptions.  If you have a
>workable method for doing so, other than silence, please share your secret.
>
>MINDWALK is wonderful!!!  I'll send you a dvd backup of the movie if
>you'd like one.
>
>
>Marsha
>
>
>
>At 02:30 PM 5/5/2009, you wrote:
> >Marsha,
> >I know you like to think of most physicsts as being stuck in the 1930's
> >but most of the physicists who still thought in terms of objects are
> >either dead or retired.
> >I know you and Platt were just communicating, sorry for stepping in,
> >I just thought that u-tube link was terribly interesting.
> >-Ron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:19:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Patterns s/o or relationship???
> >
> >
> >Ron,
> >
> >I agree with you.  It's impossible to find the words, and why
> >understanding the nature of these patterns (word-labels) is
> >........    There is no common assumption.  At their most
> >understandable they're relationship, but in the end they are so much
> >dust in the wind.  If you want to be the hammerer on top, be my
> >guest.  A hammer is not as elegant as an X Acto Knife.  I was just
> >trying to communicate with Platt.
> >
> >As far SOL being obsolete for MOQ'ers, I was thinking of yet-to-be
> >MOQ'ers.  And Earth to Ron, many physicists do not know other than
> >s/o with lots of space.
> >
> >
> >Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:43 PM 5/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >Platt, Marsha,
> > >  Basically that is what she is saying only she uses the term relationship
> > >which is commonly understood as interaction between objects, but, she
> > >already states that what we assume as objects are actually greater sets
> > >of relationships, relationships of relationships or a better word for what
> > >she is describing is value.
> > >
> > >As I keep hammering on, common assumptions about common terms
> > >in our culture is what creates philosophical paradox , the failure
> > >of rationalism. Our language is based on the grammatic predication
> > >of subjects and objects. So even when we hear the term relationships
> > >we automatically conceptualize the interaction of objects and have
> > difficulty
> > >even forming concepts about entityless abstractions. The same goes
> > for value,
> > >The terms "value" and "relationship" are almost meaningless without
> > >the conventional conception of objects.
> > >Physicists have understood the inherent emptiness of reality for the past
> > >60-70 yrs but has yet to percolate to the public.
> > >This is why SOL is redundant and obsolete, as MoQists
> > >we already know this, physicists already know this.
> > >Pirsig uses the lingual distinction of Dq/Sq just to avoid
> > >essentialism in conception.
> > >
> > >-Ron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > >From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 7:16:19 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [MD] Patterns s/o or relationship???
> > >
> > >On 5 May 2009 at 6:56, MarshaV wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Are all physicist as enlightened as this one???
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRduOpj1R7c&feature=related
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 4:05 minutes
> > >
> > >Marsha,
> > >
> > >Don't you think this physicist would be more enlightened if she had
> > >acknowledged the role of values in the structure of the universe?
> > >Emphasizing relationships and interconnections as she does strikes me as
> > >assuming an S/O premise.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the link.
> > >
> > >Platt
> > >
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