[MD] The Road Ahead

[MarshaV]

A third thought...

There is also the differentiation between intellectual patterns and 
intelligence.  Intellectual patterns are supposed to be divorced from 
value, while I define intelligence as having everything to do with 
value.  Intelligence is not a collection of intellectual patterns but 
a process of thinking directly based on value.  In fact RMP at the 
end of LILA advises that it would be using intelligence to kill all 
intellectual patterns and go for Dynamic Quality.  So Ron's shaman 
may have great innate, insightful intelligence and not possess one 
single intellectual pattern.  Intellectual patterns are just an 
evolutionary movement, that does not mean they are not a 
maladaptation, or as Krishnamurti might say 'mankind taking a wrong turn'.


Marsha



At 05:04 AM 5/9/2009, you wrote:

>Sorry, another second thought...
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>I see the Intellectual level as containing patterns having the full 
>recognition of the subject/object split, and defining the subjective 
>portion a hindrance to discovering the absolute Truth of Reality, a 
>point-of-view that is built into the patterns.  Using various 
>mechanisms, intellectual patterns attempt to diminish the subject 
>portion leaving the objective free from subjective value.  How crazy 
>is that!!!!
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>An understanding that both subject and object are mutually created 
>and interconnected based on _value_ just is a whole better 
>point-of-view.  This is my interpretation and humble opinion.
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>At 04:34 AM 5/9/2009, you wrote:
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>>Hello Bo,
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>>I didn't give in to Ron.  As presented, he has an opinion without a 
>>basis, but states he is working on an argument with some kind of 
>>evidence.  He seems to be stating that som is a intellectual 
>>pattern.  I am suggesting that all intellectual patterns are 
>>subject/object in nature.  But I haven't endorsed your SOL theory 
>>either, I merely stated that the Intellectual Level contain 
>>patterns of the s/o variety.  The Metaphysics of Quality still 
>>seems to be an intellectual pattern, and I still do not want to see 
>>a meta-level that in any way contains, constrains or defines Dynamic Quality.
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>>At 04:10 AM 5/9/2009, you wrote:
>>>Thanks Marsha
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>>>You said:
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>>> > Hey Bo, Interesting review...
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>>> > http://www.amazon.com/Road-Robert-Pirsig-Anthony-McWatt/dp/B0027FG1K4/
>>> > ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1241790653&sr=1-1
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>>>I may use this to some more comments. (PS, wish you hadn't given so
>>>easily in to Ron regarding your second thoughts on the SOL)
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