[MD] The End of Philosophy
MarshaV
marshalz at charter.net
Sat May 9 15:27:33 PDT 2009
Will,
Conventional reality, all static patterns of
value, represent shared experiences. I'm not sure where your question lies.
Marsha
At 06:12 PM 5/9/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha,
>
>Yea, social patterns, I guess.
>
>I don't know how they work, that is why I wanted to enter into this
>post subject. My feeling is that there is an easy tendency to resolve
>this question of reality by saying that it is internal. The end of philosophy
>by such means seems trite. I have not read all the posts on MoQ, so
>I will see what has been said before about social patterns before I
>continue with this.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Willblake2
>
>
>On May 9, 2009, at 10:11:03 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>Greetings Willblake2,
>
>Oooh, you want to discuss Social Level
>patterns. I've disconnected my television, so
>maybe you can tell me how they work.
>
>
>Marsha
>
>
>
>
>At 01:00 PM 5/9/2009, you wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Group reality can be felt, I feel it on a
> soccer field, I feel it in a movie.
> >I see it bring the economy up and down, I read about it creating
> >civilizations and then bringing them down.
> >
> >We can call them illusional or delusional, all the more reason to
> >discuss them.
> >
> >My point is that group reality has it's own consciousness which is
> >just as real to it, as my mind is to me. It has behavior, it reacts and
> >modifies itself through interaction and learning. By only focussing
> >on our inward feelings and reality as is suggested by the End
> >of Philosophy, seems to me to leave a whole aspect of our
> >experience out.
> >
> >As I understand Quality, it encompasses different levels.
> >It would be a shame to limit it.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Willblake2
> >
> >
> >On May 9, 2009, at 9:29:22 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> >At 11:39 AM 5/9/2009, you wrote:
> > >Willblake2 to Marsha:
> > >How would you describe group reality?
> > >
> > >Andre:
> > >Hi Willblake2 and Marsha.
> > >Hope you don't mind me hopping in. This question reminds me of the first
> > >sociology book I ever read which was written
> by Peter Berger: 'Invitation to
> > >sociology', and put me on to his 'The Social Construction of Reality'
> > >written in collaboration if I remember correctly.
> > >I also attended a lecture of his when he visited LaTrobe University in
> > >Melbourne, Australia. Didn't understand much
> of what he was saying though. I
> > >remember at one point during his lecture he pointed to the watch on his
> > >wrist saying: Íf this is not sexual harrassment I do not know what is'. (I
> > >was so naive and still am).
> > >
> > >Anyway, with a little bit of Pirsig I can now suggest that 'group reality'
> > >is hypnosis and individual reality is considered delusion.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Andre
> >
> >Hi Andre,
> >
> >Or Lila might say it is whatever you say it is, you cannot lie.
> >
> >
> >Marsha
> >
> >p.s. I also read 'The Social Construction of
> >Reality'. It had me walking around dazed for
> >weeks. I don't get the referenced link between
> >the watch and sexual harassment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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