[MD] Arlo's Rant and 3rd levels

ARLO J BENSINGER JR ajb102 at psu.edu
Sun May 17 15:15:16 PDT 2009


[WillBlake]
As I stated earlier, we are not our thoughts.

[Arlo]
Then what are we? What else besides "our thoughts"? 

[WillBlake]
I believe that Arlo is speaking about the Ego, which, as he states,  comes from
the reflection of oneself in others, in the external.

[Arlo]
Ego? Not in the least. I am saying that "self" and "other" are concepts born of
social activity. The "I" is a symbolic locus of organization. To recognize
"self" and "other" as intentional agents requires social symbolic mediation.

That is Pirsig's hierarchy. As I said, you could argue against Pirsig, as you
seem to be doing, proposing an "inorganic-biological-intellectual" MOQ, with
"social" playing some sort of contextual role or outright interfering.






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