[MD] Arlo's Rant and 3rd levels

[markhsmit]

Hi Craig,
To think that our social institutional level is somehow much more than that of 
bees and ants is a bit presumptuous.  I'm sure they do not think
so.  How is it different?  Is it because we use more sounds, create
more symbols?  Build more complex buildings?  Create languages
based on abstract concepts?  Are these abstract concepts any
different from smell or sight, which are also an abstract interpretation
of an energy of a certain wavelength or a chemical of a certain
structure.  Once interpretation takes place it is all abstract
by definition.

You are confusing level of complexity for being different.  From a
much higher level, it is all the same.  Rejoice in being just
one of the ten thousand things, we have no Godlike power, we
are not super beings.  We are not different from the forest.  We
all just cycle through time and again.

Pride is completely delusional and self-serving; it is based on fear. 

Cheers,
Willblake2


On May 17, 2009, at 6:54:25 PM, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:
[Krimel]
> In fact Pirsig, mistakenly I think, asserts that the social level is > entirely human as well. 
I think it was unfortunate that Pirsig termed the third level as "social". 
If he would have called it the "institutional level", he could have made 
his point without getting it mistaken for the biological activities of bees 
& ants (our Professor, excepted). 
Craig 
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